A couple of weeks ago I was at Chum Creek near Healesville in Victoria. I had to pick my daughter up from a scout camp. While I was there, a couple of ravens flew over, calling as they did. My immediate thought was that they were Aussie ravens, and was surprised that they were there, but then I wasn’t sure. The calls weren’t quite right for Aussie or Little. Could I have been hearing Aussies after all – the calls were much closer to that than Littles (and no, they definitely weren’t Forests). Or could I have heard some odd local dialect of Littles? Any thoughts?
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The calls I heard were close to the typical Aussie call, the “waaa-waaa-waaaaaaaa” rather than the Little’s “aark-aark-aark”. I didn’t record the calls, although I do have an iPod, so now the only thing I can say is that there was something different about the call to the normal Aussie Raven. Because I didn’t realise that Aussies are found there, I began trying to fit the call I heard in with a Little, and it just didn’t go, hence the post. However, now that I know that Aussies are likely to be found there, the call is much less anomalous. I’m quite satisfied it was an Aussie Raven. Bill On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Kev Lobotomi < kevlobotomi@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Bill You could easily get either a Little or Aussie Ravens around Chum Creek. You need to use call to separate them. You still haven’t described the call you heard. You definitely get Australian on the coast of Victoria, for example you get Aussies at Phillip island (along with Little) and Cape Liptrap, where you get Forest and Little in the same area. — Original Message — Sent: 18 May 2015 7:21 AM Cc: birding-aus@birding-aus.org Thanks for that Geoff, that’s the information I needed. The birds I saw and heard were Australian Ravens. Bill On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Geoff Leslie < barhamaid@gmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks for that Geoff, that’s the information I needed. The birds I saw and heard were Australian Ravens. Bill On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Geoff Leslie < barhamaid@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Bill The calls of both ravens vary enormously. They both can wail. But with Little it tends to be a much shorter wail. The main difference is the tone of the call. Australians have a higher pitch, Little is quite low (Forest lower still). Kev — Original Message — Sent: 17 May 2015 8:24 AM Cc: “< birding-aus@birding-aus.org>” < birding-aus@birding-aus.org> They had the Aussie wail, but it was just not like the ones you hear north of Bendigo. If I had have been up there when I heard them I would have said it’s a couple of Aussies with a sore throat. On 16/05/2015, at 10:22 PM, Kev Lobotomi < kevlobotomi@hotmail.com> wrote:
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They had the Aussie wail, but it was just not like the ones you hear north of Bendigo. If I had have been up there when I heard them I would have said it’s a couple of Aussies with a sore throat. On 16/05/2015, at 10:22 PM, Kev Lobotomi < kevlobotomi@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Could certainly be a regional dialects. Ravens and other corvids are known to have them. I have been caught out the same way in the past. Carl Clifford
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Could be either little or Australian in that area. What did they call like like.-Kevin Bartram — Original Message — Sent: 16 May 2015 10:11 PM A couple of weeks ago I was at Chum Creek near Healesville in Victoria. I had to pick my daughter up from a scout camp. While I was there, a couple of ravens flew over, calling as they did. My immediate thought was that they were Aussie ravens, and was surprised that they were there, but then I wasn’t sure. The calls weren’t quite right for Aussie or Little. Could I have been hearing Aussies after all – the calls were much closer to that than Littles (and no, they definitely weren’t Forests). Or could I have heard some odd local dialect of Littles? Any thoughts?
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Hi Bill, I live not that far from Healesville, and the Australian Raven is certainly a sedentary local bird here in Yea, often seen winging homeward over the town uttering its plaintive call. I understand that further south they disappear, being absent from Melbourne and the coastal regions. Geoff Leslie Yea Message: 16 Message-ID: < F369A079-E9DF-42E3-A583-028A6D84B976@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A couple of weeks ago I was at Chum Creek near Healesville in Victoria. I had to pick my daughter up from a scout camp. While I was there, a couple of ravens flew over, calling as they did. My immediate thought was that they were Aussie ravens, and was surprised that they were there, but then I wasn’t sure. The calls weren’t quite right for Aussie or Little. Could I have been hearing Aussies after all – the calls were much closer to that than Littles (and no, they definitely weren’t Forests). Or could I have heard some odd local dialect of Littles? Any thoughts?
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