I will be spending a month in S Australia Nov/Dec this year. In the US, tape of E Screech-Owl can be very effective in attracting a variety of small birds (at least in the East). Is there a similar species in S Oz that causes mobbing behavior?? Cheers Terry Witt Murfreesboro Tn, USA
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I’ve often seen small passerines and larger ones (e.g. Little Friarbird and Blue-faced Honeyeater) mob predators here in the Top End. Denise Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow PO Box 71 Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841 PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW. Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia Founding Member: Australian Federation of Graduate Women Northern Territory 043 8650 835 On 27 Jan 2015, at 1:56 pm, Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com> wrote:
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Where I live – just outside Canberra – the usual cause of mobbing by small birds is a leg-challenged reptile. The local small passerines will also have a go at our Frogmouths occasionally (but ignore them most of the time), but that seems to rely on visual cues as the birds are usually silent in daytime. In the past a mobbing flock led a group to a Powerful Owl in the ANBG but the recent visitor to Turner (North Canberra) hasn’t been reported as being hassled to my knowledge. Martin Butterfield http://franmart.blogspot.com.au/ On 27 January 2015 at 15:03, Graeme Stevens < gestev45@hotmail.com> wrote:
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And I have recent experience of very ethical bird guide using the technique in South America – Andean Pygmy-Owl as I recall. As Tom says, also works well in SE Asia. Seems to be the “Pygmy type” owls that are active and call during the day that create interest – and as that is something to be expected in the respective environments, I am not all sure it does much harm if used sparingly. Possibly less distressing than using the call of a territorial male of the same species (not wishing to inflame the call back debate – again) Cheers Graeme
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Unfortunately, as I’ve often said, some birders will do anything to see a new bird. Denise Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow PO Box 71 Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841 PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW. Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia Founding Member: Australian Federation of Graduate Women Northern Territory 043 8650 835 On 27 Jan 2015, at 10:18 am, Alan Gillanders < alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au > wrote:
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… and in East Africa it’s the Pearl Spotted Owlet call… On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Tom Tarrant < aviceda@gmail.com > wrote:
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Have come across this frequently in SE Asia, the call of the Asian Collared Owlet is often used to ‘bring-out’ small passerines. Tom On 27 January 2015 at 12:13, David A. Theriaque < davidt@theriaquelaw.com> wrote: — ******************************** Ian (Tom) Tarrant Hawthorn East 3123 Victoria http://www.aviceda.org ********************************
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Hi all, It’s good that you responded though Alan, as now a lot more people are aware of the differences in the situation in the US compared to here. Sonja
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Thanks Chris. Once again demonstrating the cost of accepting one’s own behaviour but being willing to condemn that of others without the knowledge needed. “mea culpa” Regards, Alan Alan’s Wildlife Tours 2 Mather Road Yungaburra 4884 Phone 07 4095 3784 Mobile 0408 953 786 http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au/ Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:06 AM Cc: Terry Witt ; birding-aus@birding-aus.org Hi Terry (and Alan), Sadly for you, to the best of my knowledge there is no similar behaviour in Australian birds. Try pishing, or playback of the target species if you must, but you’ll find most of our birds are pretty easy to find through listening and stalking. And to be honest for most of our very shy species I have had better views not using playback than on the rare occasions I’ve used it. Alan, for reference, playback of Screech-Owl calls in the US is probably not much more intrusive than pishing as long as it’s used ethically. You play the call once or twice, and curious passerines fly in to see what’s causing the fuss. Cheers, Chris I am surprised that this email has not caused a mobbing behaviour from birders. It go my hackles up. We all interfere with the birds to some extent but this? Alan Alan’s Wildlife Tours 2 Mather Road Yungaburra 4884 Phone 07 4095 3784 Mobile 0408 953 786 http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au/ —–Original Message—– From: Terry Witt Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 06:48 PM To: birding-aus@birding-aus.org Subject: [Birding-Aus] Mobbing behavior I will be spending a month in S Australia Nov/Dec this year. In the US, tape of E Screech-Owl can be very effective in attracting a variety of small birds (at least in the East). Is there a similar species in S Oz that causes mobbing behavior?? Cheers Terry Witt Murfreesboro Tn, USA
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Couldn’t agree more Alan! Sent from my Motorola RAZR™ M on the Telstra Next G™ Network Alan Gillanders < alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au > wrote:
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Let’s hope he gets a minimal response. Tony, Adelaide —–Original Message—– Alan Gillanders Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015 11:19 AM I am surprised that this email has not caused a mobbing behaviour from birders. It go my hackles up. We all interfere with the birds to some extent but this? Alan Alan’s Wildlife Tours 2 Mather Road Yungaburra 4884 Phone 07 4095 3784 Mobile 0408 953 786 http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au/ —–Original Message—– Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 06:48 PM I will be spending a month in S Australia Nov/Dec this year. In the US, tape of E Screech-Owl can be very effective in attracting a variety of small birds (at least in the East). Is there a similar species in S Oz that causes mobbing behavior?? Cheers Terry Witt Murfreesboro Tn, USA
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Hi Terry (and Alan), Sadly for you, to the best of my knowledge there is no similar behaviour in Australian birds. Try pishing, or playback of the target species if you must, but you’ll find most of our birds are pretty easy to find through listening and stalking. And to be honest for most of our very shy species I have had better views not using playback than on the rare occasions I’ve used it. Alan, for reference, playback of Screech-Owl calls in the US is probably not much more intrusive than pishing as long as it’s used ethically. You play the call once or twice, and curious passerines fly in to see what’s causing the fuss. Cheers, Chris On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Alan Gillanders < alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au> wrote:
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I am surprised that this email has not caused a mobbing behaviour from birders. It go my hackles up. We all interfere with the birds to some extent but this? Alan Alan’s Wildlife Tours 2 Mather Road Yungaburra 4884 Phone 07 4095 3784 Mobile 0408 953 786 http://www.alanswildlifetours.com.au/ —–Original Message—– Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 06:48 PM I will be spending a month in S Australia Nov/Dec this year. In the US, tape of E Screech-Owl can be very effective in attracting a variety of small birds (at least in the East). Is there a similar species in S Oz that causes mobbing behavior?? Cheers Terry Witt Murfreesboro Tn, USA
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