Month: October 2010

Interpretation please

Philip,

Thanks for that. I think it confirms my reply to Greg Little.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford

On 31/10/2010, at 10:36 PM, Philip Veerman wrote:

I have not read the article but would assume with some confidence that multi locus refers to an examination of several different genes at different locations on the chromosomes (as this is the usual meaning of the term), rather than referring to many different geographical areas or several different studies.

Philip

Interpretation please

I have not read the article but would assume with some confidence that multi locus refers to an examination of several different genes at different locations on the chromosomes (as this is the usual meaning of the term), rather than referring to many different geographical areas or several different studies.

Philip

Some introduced Species, Asian Dowitcher and Red-necked Phalarope

Good Evening Everyone

I have posted some of the introduced species from Rottnest and Northam in WA as well as Asian Dowitcher from Ashmore and a Red-necked Phalarope that was at Taylors Lagoon near Broome last weekend. Once again here is the link http://barraimaging.com.au/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=lastup http://barraimaging.com.au/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=0 &cat=0 . And to Laurie and Carl I thought the answer to the Dumb Question was that it was just another Volume of HANZAB!

Regards to you all

Geoff Jones

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Interpretation please

The beauty of Birding Aus is its egalitarianism and the little peep we get into the lives and knowledge of others involved in birds. In the following case the insight is obscured by my ignorance. Every speciality evolves its’ own language and terminology, but I am a bit bluffed by the the title of the paper referred to in the second last (penultimate) paragraph of Bruce’s (Wedderburn Birding) post on White-naped Honeyeaters, i.e.

“Toon, A., J.M. Hughes, and L. Joseph (2010), Multilocus analysis of honeyeaters (Aves: Meliphagidae) highlights spatio-temporal heterogeneity in the influence of biogeographic barriers in the Australian monsoonal zone, Mol. Ecol. 19, 2980-2994. See http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-294X.2010.04730.x/abstract”

I think I can have a good stab at the first and last underlined term (my underlining), but the second has me bluffed – their interplay is consequently a little baffling. Not surprisingly the terms do not appear in standard dictionaries.

Could someone please have a stab at a translation (or elucidation) of the title – or what, in essence, the article is about.

I did look at the abstract, but that raises even more problems with my ignorance.

Grateful for any enlightenment.

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Kowa Eyepiece

Hi Jan,

I contacted Kowa some time ago about availability of eyepieces for the Kowa TSN-1/2/3/4 series; here is the reply I received:

> Thank you for your e-mail. All of the eyepieces for the current > TSN-600 and TSN-660 series are compatible with the TSN-1/2/3/4 > scopes. The current lineup of these eyepieces are as follows: > > TSE-Z9B 20-60x Zoom > TE-9WD 50x Wide Angle > TSE-14WD 30x Wide Angle > TSE-17HD 25x Long Eye Relief

Dumb question

OK, I have seen the word cropping up all over the place and, not knowing what it REALLY meant, was hoping it would go away – Hansonism, that is! To quote another Hanson, “Please explain.” Where does it come from and what does it mean?

Shirley Cook Secretary/Treasurer Birds Australia – Northern NSW Group

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Kowa Eyepiece

Hi Everyone,

I am also looking for an eyepiece for my Kowa TSN2 which seems to have disappeared. Does anyone know where I can obtain a new one please?

I have emailed Bintel Optics twice but with no reply.

Thanks

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Ornithological Hansonism ?

Dear All,

I am amazed by the constant outbreaks of ornithological Hansonism that pops up in B-Aus when it comes to bird names. The International Ornithological Union (IOU) is an international body of prominent professional ornithologists ( some 200) who, among many other things, arbitrate on the common names of birds. The membership of the IOU can be seen at http://int-ornith-union.org/IOUmembers.html Among the members of the IOU are Dr. Richard Schodde and Dr. Walter Boles, both of who seem to know a thing or two about birds.

The publication “Birds of the World : Recommended English Names” by Gill & Wright is published on behalf of the IOU and is “a volunteer project with worldwide participation by birders and professional ornithologists”. The goal of this publication is “to facilitate worldwide communication in ornithology and conservation through the consistent use of English names linked to current species taxonomy. The English names follow explicit guidelines for spelling and construction that increase clarity of application”, so it it is not an ivory tower publicaton, but a collaboration between amateur and professional ornithologists. On those grounds I think it is reasonable to regard BOTW as the standard list of common English language names world wide. If anyone can come up with a rational argument as to why this should not be so, I would be very interested in hearing it.

As for Scientific names and species status, the Index of Organism Names (ION), see http://www.organismnames.com/ , which ION contains the organism names related data gathered from the scientific literature for Thomson Reuters’ Zoological Record® database. Viruses, bacteria and plant names will be added from other Thomson Reuters databases such as BIOSIS Previews® and Biological Abstracts® ” is the repository for all currently accepted species of everything. If it lives and has been named, it is in ION.

There is a well established mechanism for the common names of birds and whether a species is a species, so why not stick to it, as it seems to work well.

All we need to do now is to try and get a single Avian taxonomy up and accepted, but I don’t think any of us will see that in our lifetimes.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford

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