Lloyd is ok
Molloy was not badly affected
Regards lex
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On 05/02/2011, at 12:01 PM, “birding-aus-request@lists.vicnet.net.au” wrote:
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The impact of avian extinctions on plant species (Laurie Knight) > 10. Fw: Hi Alan, Helen Larson was on Palau, and was set to return > yesterday (Alan Gillanders) > 11. Re: Graham and Jill Harrington (Alan Gillanders) > 12. Australia – the West, the South and Tasmania, Oct 5th – Dec > 12th 2010 (Rosemary Royle) > 13. Stilt Sandpiper (Bigpond) > 14. Albino/leucistic Welcome Swallows at Werribee (Paul Hackett) > 15. 2 Days in Java – Gunung Gede NP (Roger McNeill) > 16. Re: Albino/leucistic Welcome Swallows at Werribee (Ed Williams) > 17. Yasi @ Clifton beach (Ian Cowan) > 18. Getting to the WTP this weeked (Peter.Fuller@callista.com.au) > > > ———————————————————————- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:49:59 +0930 > From: Denise Goodfellow > To: Birding Aus > Subject: [Birding-Aus] FW: TC Yasi and Lloyd Nielsen > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”US-ASCII” > > Has anyone heard from Lloyd Nielsen? Madeline Bauer and I’d like to know > whether he and Dorothy Window are okay. > Denise L Goodfellow > > > > > > —————————— > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:54:15 +1030 > From: “Tony Russel” > To: “‘Denise Goodfellow'” , “‘Birding Aus'” > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] FW: TC Yasi and Lloyd Nielsen > Message-ID: <002701cbc412$9e80fce0$db82f6a0$@net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”us-ascii” > > Haven’t heard anything of Lloyd but here are some contact numbers if lines > are working. > Work 07 4094 1372 > Home 07 4094 1549 > Email lloydnielsen@westnet.com.au > > Tony > > —–Original Message—– > From: birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au > [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Denise > Goodfellow > Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 11:50 AM > To: Birding Aus > Subject: [Birding-Aus] FW: TC Yasi and Lloyd Nielsen > > Has anyone heard from Lloyd Nielsen? Madeline Bauer and I’d like to know > whether he and Dorothy Window are okay. > Denise L Goodfellow > > > > =============================== > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > http://birding-aus.org > =============================== > > > > > —————————— > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:18:40 +1030 > From: michael wood > To: > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Duck Hunting Season in SA > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”iso-8859-1″ > > > A tiny report on the re-opening of the South Australian 2011 duck and quail hunting season appeared in today’s Adelaide Advertiser. > > To quote the article: > “South Australia has approved limited duck and quail hunting season for 2011 after surveys reported sufficient bird numbers across southern and eastern Australian [Typo included]. > “Environment minister Paul Caica said duck season would run from February 19 to June 26, with each hunter limited to 12 birds a day or six Pacific black ducks. The quail season will run from April 2 to July 26 with a 20-bird daily limit”. > “Hunting will be banned at Bool Lagoon and Bucks Lake game reserves in the south-east”. > > For those of us who actually have an interest, it would be nice to have a little more information on the surveys; who conducted them and the results. What the limits had been in previous years also might be worthwhile to know. But there is no additional information. All I know is that there’s nothing “sufficient” about the waterbird numbers encountered on my travels recently. > > > > > —————————— > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:47:49 +0800 (WST) > From: Adrian Boyle > To: birding-aus@vicnet.net.au > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Cocos Island update > Message-ID: > <1714176607.74111296794869950.JavaMail.root@zim-store05.web.westnet.com.au> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > Hi All, > > > > ? > > A quick update from Cocos Islands . Have been here three and a half ?days with one and?two half ?days on West Island , a day on Home Island and an afternoon on South Island . > > Bird numbers seem down on previous trips this season but we have still had some good sightings. > > > > ? > > Japanese Sparrowhawk ? two definite (immature female and adult) and one very probable (adult male) on West Island . > > > > ? > > Chinese Sparrowhawk ? 1 adult on West Island > > > > ? > > Asian Koel ? a male and female on Home Island . > > > > ? > > Asian Brown Flycatcher ? one on West Island (new bird for Cocos and first record for any Australian territory away from Ashmore Reef) > > > > ? > > Saunders Tern ? 10 on South Island > > > > ? > > Common Teal ? the long staying bird is still present on West Island > > > > ? > > Watercock ? at least 6 brown birds along the edge of the airstrip on West Island . > > > > ? > > Dollarbird ? one on West Island > > > > ? > > Cheers, > > Adrian > > —————————— > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:47:39 +1000 > From: Lloyd Nielsen > To: birding-aus@vicnet.net.au > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Yasi > Message-ID: <4D4B92FB.1060907@westnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Yes Denise, Madeline and Tony – we are OK – thanks for your concern. We > had phone contact for a few hours after the cyclone went through but > then lost it for 36 hours. Just back on the air now (3.30 pm Friday) and > have managed to get onto the internet – but still can’t ring out. We > missed most of the cyclone here (Mt Molloy – we are about 160 km north > of where it hit the coast) – just got enough wind to blow a few shrubs > over. It was a huge relief but our hearts go out to those poor people > further south. Just unbelievable! I have been listening to the local > radio since the cyclone went through (ABC – they are doing a fabulous > job and have spent yesterday and today right in the middle of the worst > of it, with contact and helping people where it is needed) and most > people are saying that cyclone Larry had nothing on Yasi! Not much rain > as the cyclone went through this area here but we are getting a deluge > at the moment with creeks flooded and roads cut.. > > Thanks again > > Lloyd > > > —————————— > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:59:57 +1100 > From: “davidstowe@optusnet.com.au” > To: Denise Goodfellow > Cc: Birding Aus > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] FW: TC Yasi and Lloyd Nielsen > Message-ID: <29B12128-1E1A-4798-A660-BA66FE8AA8AD@optusnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Denise, > I got an email from Lloyd a short time ago and he is safe and well. > > “…Yes, we were very very lucky – just a bit of wind and not much rain. Thankfully we were far enough north from the crossing point to be out of the damage area. There was some damage on the southern tableland apparently. We did not lose electricity but the phones (both landline and mobile) have been on and off. We had phones immediately after the cyclone went through – for a couple of hours yesterday (Thursday) morning. Then they went out for the rest of the day…..” > > Cheers > Dave > > > On 04/02/2011, at 12:19 PM, Denise Goodfellow wrote: > >> Has anyone heard from Lloyd Nielsen? Madeline Bauer and I’d like to know >> whether he and Dorothy Window are okay. >> Denise L Goodfellow >> >> >> >> =============================== >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, >> send the message: >> unsubscribe >> (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >> to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au >> >> http://birding-aus.org >> =============================== > > > > —————————— > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:47:15 +1000 > From: “Alan Gillanders” > To: “birding-aus” > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Yasi brings blow ins to Yungaburra > Message-ID: <9544645FC42E45CAA3123A0C3D65AD86@AlanPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”iso-8859-1″ > > Greetings and thanks for all the good wishes. We are just now back on line after regaining power supplies yesterday evening. We are grateful for all our good luck and thinking of those less fortunate. Has anyone heard from Helen Larson? > > Will reply to each of you who sent personal comments or questions as I get a bit more time. > > The following remarkable birds were seen at Tinaburra this midday on my lunch break. > > COMMON TERNS (4) > CRESTED TERN (1 or 2) > LESSER-CRESTED TERN (1) > PIED CORMORANT (1) > GULL-BILLED TERN (5) > CASPIAN TERN (1) > COMMON SANDPIPER (1) > > There are still some Gallinago snipe in the paddock below the house. > > Yesterday in Yungaburra, about 6 pm, Maria and I saw a large dark petrel with long, thin wings, a shortish rounded tail and the ‘wrists’ held well forward. First I called ‘shearwater’ then ‘Great-winged Petrel’. That is still my best guess but am not at all sure. We don’t get a lot of those in the mid altitude rainforests of north Queensland. (he says trying to build on his reputation for understatement and so by undermining it!) > > Regards, > Alan > > —————————— > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:46:48 +1000 > From: Laurie Knight > To: Birding Aus > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Footedness in Parrots > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Recently published research from Macquarie Uni – http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9382000/9382181.stm > > > —————————— > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:48:30 +1000 > From: Laurie Knight > To: Birding Aus > Subject: [Birding-Aus] The impact of avian extinctions on plant > species > Message-ID: <58188391-3659-460D-9B62-32E5D936F1C9@optusnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Some interesting research from the land of the long white cloud. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20083-after-the-birds-vanish-plants-are-next-to-go.html > > > —————————— > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:48:36 +1000 > From: “Alan Gillanders” > To: “birding-aus” , > > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Fw: Hi Alan, Helen Larson was on Palau, and was > set to return yesterday > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”iso-8859-1″ > > Denise, > Thought you’d like to know. > Alan > > > From: Colin Trainor > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:25 PM > To: alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au > Subject: Hi Alan, Helen Larson was on Palau, and was set to return yesterday > > > Hi Alan, Helen Larson was on Palau, and was set to return yesterday, but the Cairns airport was’nt open so she’s been delayed. She’s fine, but she’s not sure about the house. > > > > Colin > > > > ——————————————————————————– > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG – www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3417 – Release Date: 02/02/11 05:34:00 > > > —————————— > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:54:52 +1000 > From: “Alan Gillanders” > To: “Judith Hoyle” , > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Graham and Jill Harrington > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=”iso-8859-1″; > reply-type=original > > G’day Judith, > The Malanda exchange is down. Have left a message on Graham’s mobile’s voice > mail. > Regards, > Alan > > ————————————————– > From: “Judith Hoyle” > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:09 AM > To: > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Graham and Jill Harrington > >> Hi All >> >> If anyone has heard from Graham and Jill up at Milanda on the Tablelands >> we would be very grateful to know they are safe and sound. >> >> Regards >> >> Judith >> >> =============================== >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, >> send the message: >> unsubscribe >> (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >> to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au >> >> http://birding-aus.org >> =============================== > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG – www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3417 – Release Date: 02/02/11 >> 05:34:00 >> > > > —————————— > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 15:42:23 -0000 > From: “Rosemary Royle” > To: “Birding Aus” > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Australia – the West, the South and Tasmania, > Oct 5th – Dec 12th 2010 > Message-ID: <3E302B14266941CDA01613B74680E626@oemx0r8v7w9bno> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”iso-8859-1″ > > Some of the readers of this mailing list might like to know that the trip report for our most recent visit to Australia is now posted on Birdtours at > > http://www.birdtours.co.uk/tripreports/australia/tour1/tour-oct-dec-2010.htm > > I have noticed one or two spelling mistakes and a few formatting issues occurred when the report was loaded on to the web but it is mostly OK. > > Regards > > Rosemary Royle > > > > —————————— > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 04:38:10 +0800 > From: “Bigpond” > To: > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Stilt Sandpiper > Message-ID: <6AEDB8322D6E4AEEA3778FBEE5C876A2@SUEPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=”iso-8859-1″; > reply-type=original > > Yesterday at 1130 we saw the Stilt Sandpiper amongst the rocks on the north > side of the T section lagoons near Austin Road. Initially it was loafing in > water up to its belly so that the legs were not visible and it looked quite > dumpy but when it walked along it became the long necked elegant bird of > previous reports. We did eventually see its long yellow legs. > Sue and Xenia > > > > > > —————————— > > Message: 14 > Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:51:22 +1100 > From: Paul Hackett > To: birding-aus@lists.vicnet.net.au > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Albino/leucistic Welcome Swallows at Werribee > Message-ID: <4D4BBE0A.7070505@bigpond.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi all, > > I was at the Western Treatment Plant today and saw 2 albino/leucistic > Welcome Swallows. The first was seen at the locked gate at the Little > River end of Paradise Road. It was perched on the wire mesh adjacent to > the gate. The second bird was seen at the 15 E outlet on a structure > with a swallow’s nest built on it. Photos of both birds can be seen at > https://picasaweb.google.com/melbournebirding/Werribee4thFeb2010# > > Cheers, > Paul Hackett > > — > Paul Hackett Tours > Melbourne, Australia > http://www.melbournebirding.com > +61 414 355146 > > > > —————————— > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:59:27 -0800 (PST) > From: Roger McNeill > To: birding-aus@vicnet.net.au > Subject: [Birding-Aus] 2 Days in Java – Gunung Gede NP > Message-ID: <147128.20608.qm@web59409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On the front end of a work trip to Indonesia, I arrived in Java (Jakarta) prior > to the weekend and drove south a few hours to Gunung Gede Pangrangro National > Park near Cibodas.? The park is 2 to 7 hours south of Jakarta depending on > traffic!? This park is well known due to its high concentration of Javan > endemics on an island ravaged by humanity. I stayed at Freddy?s Guest house.? > His place is about 1 K from the park gates, so access is great, but it is quite > basic.? You can rent a room for 100,000 / night $11 AUD, but you need to bring > your own Towel, Bog Roll, Soap and a set of your own sheets would not be a bad > idea.? His wife will cook for you if you like, basic meals such as Nasi this or > Mie that for around 3-4 dollars, the will also give you a plastic lunch box to > take in the forest too! > The Friday afternoon I spent in the lower part of the forest by myself and > managed to see a number of critters and many endemics without ID?s being too > difficult.? I can however say that this is the first time I have ever been > hampered by a field guide.? I found A Field Guide to the Birds of Borneo, > Sumatra, Java, and Bali: The Greater Sunda Islands by MacKinnon to be very > challenging to use.? I can be generous and chalk up the drawings being of > ?non-Javan? forms, but I swear you would think you were discovering new > species!? White-browed Shrike-Babbler, Javan Trogon and others were so > different…anyone who has the book and would like to see some pictures…I will > show you what I mean!? > > The next morning, I did not intend to take a guide into the forest, but Freddy > insisted that his Grandson go with me.? He told me he is training Ekke to be a > bird guide, he is a nice young kid but still needs a lot of training!? Those > without independent identification skills will end up with a much bigger list > than appropriate and even a few species that would be firsts for Java…if you > know what I mean.? He is in his late teens so time is on his side.? > > I think after the first few minutes with me pushing back on his Id?s he called > up his uncle (Freddy?s son) who was also in the forest guiding a Japanese fellow > and the four of us hooked up.? That was a blessing as he is an excellent bird > guide. > I was foiled from actually camping in the park due to the higher elevation > sections being closed to tree falls and bad weather but we made it above ?the > Junction? on two successive days in search of Javan Trogon and Javan Cochoa. > ?Managed the Cochoa the first day and Trogon the second…nice pics of the > trogon too! > We were there on the weekend and the trails were full of Javanese heading up and > down to the waterfall, but once we walked onto a spur trail, we had the place > mostly to ourselves.? Like all forests, you can wander around and hope to > stumble into or hear a resident bird, but our guide knew the spots and we spent > more than a few hours waiting for the flocks, which inevitably had the target > species.? Things like being at the boardwalk clearing at 8 for Giant Swiftlet > failed the first day, but worked the second! > ?There is a lot of good info on the web about the trails and areas to see which > species so I won?t duplicate that.? Anyone interested in more details can > contact me off line.? Bird species list is below, those with a (J) were seen > while waiting for my driver in Jakarta and not in the mountains. > Intermediate Egret(J) > Little Egret(J) > Javan Pond-Heron(J) > Crested Serpent-Eagle > Asian Black Eagle > Changeable Hawk-Eagle > Javan Hawk-Eagle > Spotted Dove(J) > Zebra Dove(J) > Oriental Cuckoo > Salvadori’s Nightjar > Waterfall Swift > Edible-nest Swiftlet(J) > Linchi Swiftlet > Javan Trogon > Javan Kingfisher > Mangrove Kingfisher > Fire-tufted Barbet- not suppposed to be in Java…great pics! > Flame-fronted Barbet > Crimson-winged Woodpecker > Orange-backed Woodpecker > Pacific Swallow > Gray Wagtail(J) > Sunda Cuckooshrike > Sunda Minivet > Black-winged Flycatcher-Shrike > Sooty-headed Bulbul > Orange-spotted Bulbul > Gray-cheeked Bearded Bulbul > Sunda Bulbul > Long-tailed Shrike > Lesser Shortwing > White-browed Shortwing > Sunda Whistling-Thrush > Sunda Robin > Sunda Forktail > Javan Cochoa > Horsfield’s Babbler > Eyebrowed Wren-Babbler > Pygmy Wren-Babbler > White-bibbed Babbler > Crescent-chested Babbler > White-browed Shrike-Babbler > Chestnut-fronted Shrike-Babbler > Javan Fulvetta > Spotted Crocias > Bar-winged Prinia > Javan Tesia > Mountain Tailorbird > Ashy Tailorbird(J) > Mountain Leaf-Warbler > Sunda Warbler > Indigo Flycatcher > Mugimaki Flycatcher > Snowy-browed Flycatcher > Little Pied Flycatcher > Gray-headed Canary Flycatcher > Rufous-tailed Fantail > Pygmy Tit > Great Tit > Blue Nuthatch > Blood-breasted Flowerpecker > Brown-throated Sunbird(J) > Olive-backed Sunbird(J) > White-flanked Sunbird > Javan Gray-throated White-eye > Ashy Drongo > Lesser Racquet-tailed Drongo > White-breasted Woodswallow(J) > Tawny-breasted Parrotfinch > Javan White-bellied Munia(J) > Nutmeg Mannikin(J) > Eurasian Tree Sparrow > ?Cheers, > > > Roger > > > Roger McNeill > Samford Valley, SEQ > > > > > —————————— > > Message: 16 > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 22:11:10 +0000 > From: Ed Williams > To: , > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Albino/leucistic Welcome Swallows at > Werribee > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”iso-8859-1″ > > > Hi Paul, > > We had one at WTP on January the 1st – but absolutely pure white and was perpetually being mobbed and harrassed by the other swallows. > > Cheers, > > Ed > >> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:51:22 +1100 >> From: melbournebirding@gmail.com >> To: birding-aus@lists.vicnet.net.au >> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Albino/leucistic Welcome Swallows at Werribee >> >> Hi all, >> >> I was at the Western Treatment Plant today and saw 2 albino/leucistic >> Welcome Swallows. The first was seen at the locked gate at the Little >> River end of Paradise Road. It was perched on the wire mesh adjacent to >> the gate. The second bird was seen at the 15 E outlet on a structure >> with a swallow’s nest built on it. Photos of both birds can be seen at >> https://picasaweb.google.com/melbournebirding/Werribee4thFeb2010# >> >> Cheers, >> Paul Hackett >> >> — >> Paul Hackett Tours >> Melbourne, Australia >> http://www.melbournebirding.com >> +61 414 355146 >> >> =============================== >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, >> send the message: >> unsubscribe >> (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >> to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au >> >> http://birding-aus.org >> =============================== > > > —————————— > > Message: 17 > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 08:24:15 +1000 > From: Ian Cowan > To: birding-aus@lists.vicnet.net.au > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Yasi @ Clifton beach > Message-ID: <4D4C7C8F.1040300@bigpond.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Clifton Beach was very fortunate with the passing of Yasi – I had 2 > small highlights > 1. Thursday morning when surveying all the trash in my pool I looked > around to the sunbird nest and was amazed she was still sitting there, > nest intact > 2. I had noted a magpie-lark nesting on an insulator on a crossroad > stay-wire – very exposed position – assumed on Wednesday it was doomed, > but was amazed this morning to see them feeding there young, nest still > intact > Ian Cowan > Clifton Beach > > > —————————— > > Message: 18 > Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:34:47 +1100 > From: Peter.Fuller@callista.com.au > To: birding-aus@lists.vicnet.net.au > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Getting to the WTP this weeked > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”us-ascii” > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed… > URL: http://lists.vicnet.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/private/birding-aus/attachments/20110205/8c7762f7/attachment-0001.html > > —————————— > > _______________________________________________ > birding-aus mailing list > birding-aus@lists.vicnet.net.au > http://lists.vicnet.net.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus > > > End of birding-aus Digest, Vol 59, Issue 6 > ******************************************
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