Mike, I think you need a fair supply of salt when using data from sites like eBird, etc. not the fault of the lists, just the GIGO law at work. Carl > On 22 May 2015, at 12:15 pm, Michael Tarburton < tarburton.m@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > G’day Tickers & bird watchers > > Carl, what makes your observation worse is that when each of the persons on the tour then go and send those identical lists to eBird. I get very frustrated trying to gather swift data from eBird, where I have had up to 8 identical lists for the same place on the same day. Sometimes they admit there were others with them sometimes they do not. > > Happy birding > > > Mike > > > =================== > Michael Tarburton > tarburton.m@optusnet.com.au > =================== > > > > >> On 11/05/2015, at 3:51 PM, Carl Clifford wrote: >> >> I think that occurs on quite a few group tours, with the leaders collecting the individual sightings for their records, and some of the group just using the “master” list as their own sightings. Guess it is a matter of conscience. >> >> Carl Clifford >> >> >>> On 11 May 2015, at 1:31 pm, Denise Goodfellow < goodfellow@bigpond.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Clients once told me of a fellow passenger on a pelagic trip. As the guide reeled off the names of the species, this fellow ticked them off his list, without looking up! >>> >>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow >>> PO Box 71 >>> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841 >>> 043 8650 835 >>> >>> PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW. >>> >>> Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia >>> Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast’s International Ecotourism Award, 2004. >>> >>> With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this continent becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 11 May 2015, at 12:23 pm, Peter Shute < pshute@nuw.org.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> That’s not as silly as it sounds, if the client did actually see the bird but wasn’t able to identify it, and was just making sure Tim was certain of the id. >>>> >>>> My OBP tick wouldn’t be a tick if there hadn’t been an expert there to tell me it wasn’t a Blue-wing. Normally I’d want to id it myself, but I figure there aren’t going to be many chances to try again, and it’s not that much different to taking a photo and asking an expert later. >>>> >>>> Peter Shute >>>> >>>>> —–Original Message—– >>>>> From: Birding-Aus >>>>> [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> drdeath@picknowl.com.au >>>>> Sent: Monday, 11 May 2015 10:45 AM >>>>> To: Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org >>>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ticks >>>>> >>>>> I remember the late Tim Fisher (of the Philippines) telling >>>>> me about a client who asked him (Tim) “Did you see that well >>>>> enough for me to tick it?” >>>>> David Robertson >>>>> Adelaide >>>> >>>>
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