Hi all,
Just for those interested, the new version contains around about 60 new sites, and approximately 240 sites in total.
As the original T & T has led me to some wonderful places I am pleased that it has been reprinted and will be available to a new generation of Australian birders and international visitors. My thanks to David and Alan.
cheers
Jen
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Tony Russel
> Rob, I didn’t pick any holes in it . I did pick up on one of the things > John > said, but that was his comment , not mine. All I really said was that there > couldn’t be too many new places to include – a function of geography, not a > problem with the book. I imagine the book is good for someone who didn’t > have the first issue but I don’t think I need to get the new one myself. > ( Or was it my Hm! that you didn’t like?) There you go, I’ve deleted it. > > Tony > > —–Original Message—– > From: birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au > [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of robert > morris > Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 3:53 PM > To: birding-aus@lists.vicnet.net.au > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition. > > > Carl, Tony et al. > It is always easy to pick holes and criticise – especially when you’ve used > the old T&T and seen everything, or know about and have access to all these > other resources. I’d be interested to know if you’ve actually even seen a > copy? As you wrote Tony ‘If one used the first edition exhaustively and > went to every location recommended, as I did myself’ – this in my mind is a > ringing endorsement for the book for many others who are looking for places > to go to look for specific species! > Paul (Walbridge) and I noted a few ‘issues’ with the Southport Pelagic > write > up – but it was still good it got a write up and it was better than the > original 2 or 3 lines Richard and Sarah put together! There are always > going to be a few errors in such books – and elements of books like this go > out of date as soon as they are published. > But on the other side of the equation (a more balanced view perhaps) – the > book makes a positive contribution to promoting birding and ornithology in > Australia and there will (hopefully) be plenty of budding young > ornithologists and foreign visitors who use this, as others used the first > T&T in the past, to develop a passion for birding. > There’s a lot of good stuff in this book and I think that almost writing it > off because of one or two errors or omissions is a little premature. I have > the old version and have been to most the places in it. There are only a > handful of endemics I haven’t seen. But I have bought the new version too – > it is interesting to look at what has and what hasn’t changed, and the new > sites there are around for some species etc. etc. > I guess it depends on your outlook! > Rob Morris > > > > > > > From: pratincole@esc.net.au > > To: carlsclifford@gmail.com; jspk@iprimus.com.au > > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:56:46 +1030 > > CC: birding-aus@vicnet.net.au; inglisrc@tpg.com.au > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition. > > > > If one used the first edition exhaustively and went to every location > > recommended, as I did myself with other SA birders, there can’t be too > many > > new places for the new edition to cover. I sold my original once it was > out > > of print and had served its purpose. > > > > I’m with Carl on this. And if it’s got errors like the Yumbarra one > where > > you should go through the gate at the end of Foggo’s Rd before turning > left > > ( then travel 2.1km along the fence before turning right up a poorly > marked > > narrow track etc). > > > > > > Tony > > > > —–Original Message—– > > From: birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au > > [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Carl > Clifford > > Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 10:05 AM > > To: John Tongue > > Cc: Birding-Aus; Robert Inglis > > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition. > > > > I am glad I did not rush out and buy T&T. I am always wary of books > > with “Complete” in their titles anyway. I think I will stick with > > Birdata, Eremaea and B-A’s archives if I wish to discover where a > > particular species may be found or what species are at a particular > > location. Much more up to date. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Carl Clifford > > > > > > On 23/03/2011, at 9:43 AM, John Tongue wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > We found a few minor discrepancies in the info for Yumbarra > > Conservation Reserve in SA. Nothing too major, but it could be > > confusing when the notes say to turn left at the Dog fence before > > travelling a few km to the gate through the fence, when the gate is > > actually at the point Foggo’s Road reaches the dog fence. Apart from > > that, just a few name discrepancies. in this listing. > > > > HAven’t really tried out many of the others – though I did note Bob’s > > point about the unusual way Tasmania is sometimes handled!! (Didn’t > > want to appear too testy, or mention Brisbane Commonwealth Games 
> > > > Cheers, > > John Tongue > > Ulverstone, Tas. > > > > On 22/03/2011, at 7:14 PM, Robert Inglis wrote: > > > > > An interesting makeover but Tasmanians must be a little confused. > > > There seems to be some doubt about whether Tasmania is part of > > > Australia or, in fact, a separate country. > > > I thought we worked this sort of thing out a long time ago. > > > > > > Check out the Bird Finder Guide for the Striated Pardalote and > > > Eastern Spinebill entries. > > > Or Horsfield’s Bronze-Cuckoo and Shining Bronze-Cuckoo. > > > Or Masked Owl and Eastern Barn Owl. > > > Or Kelp Gull and Silver Gull. > > > > > > There’s probably more but this little idiosyncrasy shouldn’t prevent > > > anyone finding those, and other, species. > > > > > > Bob Inglis Sandstone Point > > > Qld > > > > > > =============================== > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > > > send the message: > > > unsubscribe > > > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > > > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > > > > > http://birding-aus.org > > > =============================== > > > > =============================== > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > > send the message: > > unsubscribe > > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > > > http://birding-aus.org > > =============================== > > > > =============================== > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > > send the message: > > unsubscribe > > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > > > http://birding-aus.org > > =============================== > > =============================== > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > > send the message: > > unsubscribe > > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > > > http://birding-aus.org > > =============================== > > =============================== > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > http://birding-aus.org > =============================== > > > =============================== > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > http://birding-aus.org > =============================== > ===============================
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