Hi.
I live on the campus of Pacific Adventist University outside of Port Moresby in PNG. Given that there are no birding lists for PNG, I hope you’ll forgive my email. I am hoping someone can help me with a the ID of the Plovers (Pluvialis sp.) that are currently on campus. Are they Pluvialis dominica or Pluvialis fulva? Or have I got it really wrong & they are Pluvialis squatarola? I have uploaded photos: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151244317599802.480427.802839801&type=1&l=b3a368d332I‘d appreciate any ID help.
Thanks,
Jeff Crocombe
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It’s messed up the link again by dropping a space. It should be:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151244317599802.480427.802839801&type=1&l=b3a368d332
Peter Shute
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Thank you to all those that replied with an ID and other information. My apologies that I messed up the original photo link, the correct link as some pointed out is: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151244317599802.480427.802839801&type=1&l=b3a368d332Iand should be accessible to anyone – even those on face book. I did a short blog post with the same pictures at: http://pngnature.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/some-long-distance-visitors/ If anyone finds themselves in Port Moresby I’d be happy to go birding with you.
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Hi John, I was under the understanding that the diagnostic referred to primaries extending beyond the tertials too. (Not tail tip) Also feet project past the tail in flight with PGP but not with AGP from what i remember too. Happy to be corrected by those more experienced though.
There are some photos in the link below from the 2009 Boat Harbour AGP
http://www.pbase.com/davidstowe/american_golden_plover
Cheers David Stowe
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Is it not primaries projecting past the tertials? In which case there are 3, pretty much diagnostic of PGP? – my initial impression was PGP too, and they would be the most likely I would think Cheers,John
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Hey all,
I am counting 4 primaries well past the tail tip… wouldn’t this coupled with the overall dark appearance and ‘Bamby’-face be a cause for pause?
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D.
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I think pacific golden plover. As I understand it, the tertials in PGP are much longer than for AGP, which seems to be indicated by your photos
Jeremy
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Thanks – yes that works, but I know often you can only see photos on Facebook if you join.
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The capital I at the end of the address has been seconded – delete it and the the address works
The bird(s) look like Pacific, an excellent photo shows 3 primaries projecting beyond tertials Cheers,John
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I couldn’t access the photos – maybe one has to be a Facebook member to do so, which rules me out!
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Hi Jeff,
I couldn’t access your photos for some reason – I’m an Elder at Avondale Memorial Seventh-day Adventist Church in Cooranbong and have few runs on the board with waders, so would like to see your images.
I’m guessing you’ll have P. fulva as your most common Pluvialis sp. with a few P. squatarola thrown in (look for black under the wing on the flanks and tertials – also greyer and chunkier bird than P. fulva). P. dominica are a rare vagrant in our region, but not out of the question – it is hard to pick, but a significant primary extension past the tail and broad light brow with less golden hues overall are the key indicators from P. fulva.
Regards,
Allan Richardson Morisset NSW
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