Would anyone on the chatline feel confident in telling whether a recording is of a Nightingale or a Sprosser?
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Nightingale/Sprosser songWould anyone on the chatline feel confident in telling whether a recording is of a Nightingale or a Sprosser? 6 comments to Nightingale/Sprosser song |
Yes, in Norway we talk about the Nattergal (L. luscinia) and the Sør-(=south)nattergal L. megarhynchus), while in Holland it is the other way round: L. megarhynchus is the Nachtegaal, and L. luscinia the Noordse (=Nordic) Nachtegaal, In both countries the name ‘nightingale’ is therefore used for the local mastersinger, while the other species gets a geographic extra monniker. In reality the name Nordic Nightingale is not exceedingly happily chosen, as L. luscinia has much more an eastern distribution than a northern; although it occurs in Southernmost Norway and in the southern half of Sweden and Finland, the bird is completely unknown in Northern Norway, where we have the Bluethroat (L. svecica) as our local mastersinger.
Wim Vader, Tromsø, Norway
________________________________________ Van: birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au [birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au] namens Peter Madvig [madvig@iprimus.com.au] Verzonden: dinsdag 17 januari 2012 13:35 Aan: Nikolas Haass; John Leonard CC: birding-aus@vicnet.net.au Onderwerp: Re: [Birding-Aus] Nightingale/Sprosser song
And Nikolas, the same applies to Danish, not surprisingly. Cheers Peter Madvig PS. I was being deafened by a few Thrush-Nightingales last May, very close but totally out of sight!!
And Nikolas, the same applies to Danish, not surprisingly. Cheers Peter Madvig PS. I was being deafened by a few Thrush-Nightingales last May, very close but totally out of sight!!
Hi John,
Yes indeed, I think this is a Thrush Nightingale (Sprosser in German, Nattergal in Norwegian, Naektergal in Swedish): The song is quite slow and powerful and lacks the ‘classic’ crescendo flute introduction typical of (Common) Nightingale (Nachtigall in German, Sydlig Naektergal in Swedish). However one has to keep in mind that the recording may have been edited for the symphony, which may have impacted on speed and volume. Interestingly, the common name for Thrush Nightingale in Norwegian as well as in Swedish translates to “Nightingale”, whereas (Common) Nightingale in Swedish translates to “Southern Nightingale”, probably in Norwegian too (can’t find it now). Therefore, I believe that there is a translation error in the sleeve notes.
Cheers,
Nikolas
John,
You can do a quick comparison of the songs at freesound.org, which not only has the song, but also a sonogram of each call. The Nightingale song is at http://www.freesound.org/people/reinsamba/sounds/14854/ and the Thrush Nightingale/Sprosser at http://www.freesound.org/people/genghis attenborough/sounds/36090/
Cheers,
Carl Clifford
Would anyone on the chatline feel confident in telling whether a recording is of a Nightingale or a Sprosser?
There’s some excellent video of both species singing on the IBC site. Check out these links…. http://ibc.lynxeds.com/video/thrush-nightingale-luscinia-luscinia/male-thrush-nightingale-showing-untypically-well-low-bush http://ibc.lynxeds.com/video/common-nightingale-luscinia-megarhynchos/male-singing http://ibc.lynxeds.com/video/common-nightingale-luscinia-megarhynchos/bird-singing-branch-0
Tom
I’d love to give it a try…