Name changes

These must be an April Fools day joke.

Otherwise just a joke and unamusing.

Cheers

Michael

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> 3. Re: mystery bird on YouTube (John Leonard)
> 4. Re: bird names – again (Rob Gully)
> 5. Re: bird names – again (Noel Luff)
> 6. mystery bird on YouTube. No mystery. (Philip Veerman)
> 7. FW: mystery bird on YouTube. No mystery. Further info.
> (Philip Veerman)
> 8. Malurus assimilis dulcis – The Sandstone Fairy-wren
> (Graeme Chapman)
> 9. Re: mystery bird on YouTube (Peter Shute)
> 10. Re: bird names – again (Brian Fleming)
> 11. Re: bird names – again (Laurie Knight)
> 12. Re: mystery bird on YouTube. No mystery. (Carl Clifford)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 17:25:30 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Gary Davidson < gsd37@yahoo.ca>
> To: “calyptorhynchus .” <
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com>,
> “
birding-aus@birding-aus.org” < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube
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> Definitely a Steller’s Jay, the question is, how did it get to Europe. This bird lives only on the west coast of North America, not a likely vagrant that far east! It is an extremely?rare bird anywhere in the eastern half of NA.Gary
>
> From: calyptorhynchus . <
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com>
> To: “
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> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:49 AM
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube
>
> 1.07 minutes into this video on Trovants (a peculiar form of sandstone
> boulders found in Rumania), there is an appearance of a bird I can’t
> identify. I would say it definitely isn’t a European bird and looks more
> like a S American sub-oscine.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB8Jq26dw6k
>
> A screen-capture is here:
>
>
www.jleonard.net/mysterybird.jpg
>
> But you might get more detail by watching the video.
>
> cheers
>
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> John Leonard
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> From: Peter Waanders < waanders.peter@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] bird names – again
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> Hi all,
> I’ve been forwarded the below email which I thought I’d share with the
> group in light of recent discussion about bird names. It appears the Aust
> gov’t is moving ahead with adopting an updated bird taxonomy.
> Please remember I’m only the messenger… :-)
> cheers
> Peter
>
> ———- Forwarded message ———-
> From: *Ludus, Malcolm (DEE)* <
Malcolm.Ludus@environment.gov.au>
> Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:47 PM
> Subject: RE: bird classification [DLM=For-Official-Use-Only]
> To:
>
> For Official Use Only
>
> Dear all
>
> I’ve dug up the information we touched on during the discussion about bird
> taxonomy at this week’s meeting and thought I’d forward to you – please see
> link below:
>
>
www.icbn2017.com
>
>
>
> Also, Mandy have you had a chance to distribute the updated documents yet?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Malcolm.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 08:17:21 +1100
> From: John Leonard < calyptorhynchus@gmail.com>
> To:
birding-aus@birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube
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> Thanks everyone for this identification as a Steller’s Jay.
>
> I suspect the author of the video just put together all the footage he could find of these type of boulders and this segment happened to be from western US, even though the main subject was an area in southern Rumania!
>
> John Leonard
>
>
>> On 1 Apr 2017, at 4:25 AM, Gary Davidson <
gsd37@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Definitely a Steller’s Jay, the question is, how did it get to Europe. This bird lives only on the west coast of North America, not a likely vagrant that far east! It is an extremely rare bird anywhere in the eastern half of NA.
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> From: calyptorhynchus . <
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com>
>> To: “
birding-aus@birding-aus.org” < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:49 AM
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube
>>
>> 1.07 minutes into this video on Trovants (a peculiar form of sandstone
>> boulders found in Rumania), there is an appearance of a bird I can’t
>> identify. I would say it definitely isn’t a European bird and looks more
>> like a S American sub-oscine.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB8Jq26dw6k
>>
>> A screen-capture is here:
>>
>>
www.jleonard.net/mysterybird.jpg
>>
>> But you might get more detail by watching the video.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> —
>> John Leonard
>>

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> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 08:28:50 +1100
> From: “Rob Gully” < rgully@dcsi.net.au>
> To: “‘Peter Waanders'” <
waanders.peter@gmail.com>, “‘Birding Aus'”
> <
birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] bird names – again
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> It is April 1 isn’t it.
>
> Rob Gully
> 0434 140 880
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> —–Original Message—–
> From: Birding-Aus [
I’ve been forwarded the below email which I thought I’d share with the group
> in light of recent discussion about bird names. It appears the Aust gov’t is
> moving ahead with adopting an updated bird taxonomy.
> Please remember I’m only the messenger… :-) cheers Peter
>
> ———- Forwarded message ———-
> From: *Ludus, Malcolm (DEE)* <
Malcolm.Ludus@environment.gov.au>
> Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:47 PM
> Subject: RE: bird classification [DLM=For-Official-Use-Only]
> To:
>
> For Official Use Only
>
> Dear all
>
> I’ve dug up the information we touched on during the discussion about bird
> taxonomy at this week’s meeting and thought I’d forward to you – please see
> link below:
>
> www.icbn2017.com
>
>
>
> Also, Mandy have you had a chance to distribute the updated documents yet?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Malcolm.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 08:44:54 +1100
> From: Noel Luff < noelluff@gmail.com>
> To: Rob Gully <
rgully@dcsi.net.au>
> Cc: Peter Waanders <
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> should have sorted out the black-faced/masked woodswallows while you were
> at it
>
>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Rob Gully <
rgully@dcsi.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> It is April 1 isn’t it.
>>
>> Rob Gully
>> 0434 140 880
>>
>> —–Original Message—–
>> From: Birding-Aus [
>
>> Hi all,
>> I’ve been forwarded the below email which I thought I’d share with the
>> group
>> in light of recent discussion about bird names. It appears the Aust gov’t
>> is
>> moving ahead with adopting an updated bird taxonomy.
>> Please remember I’m only the messenger… :-) cheers Peter
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> From: *Ludus, Malcolm (DEE)* <
Malcolm.Ludus@environment.gov.au>
>> Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:47 PM
>> Subject: RE: bird classification [DLM=For-Official-Use-Only]
>> To:

>>
>> For Official Use Only
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I’ve dug up the information we touched on during the discussion about bird
>> taxonomy at this week’s meeting and thought I’d forward to you – please see
>> link below:
>>
>> www.icbn2017.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, Mandy have you had a chance to distribute the updated documents yet?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Malcolm.
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> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 08:56:11 +1100
> From: “Philip Veerman” < pveerman@pcug.org.au>
> To: “‘calyptorhynchus .'” <
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com>,
> <
birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube. No mystery.
> Message-ID: <
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>
> And who trusts things on utube? People splice in stuff from all over. Just because these stones are found in Romania does not mean only Romania. At 4:08 minutes the narrator (it is quite a strain to keep up with him), says that these stones are found elsewhere mentioning amongst other places e.g. Wyoming, that is western USA, and clearly within the range of Steller’s Jay. So a bit of extra film slotted in there. Nothing odd there.
>
> Philip
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Birding-Aus [
birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:49 AM
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube
>
> 1.07 minutes into this video on Trovants (a peculiar form of sandstone
> boulders found in Rumania), there is an appearance of a bird I can’t
> identify. I would say it definitely isn’t a European bird and looks more
> like a S American sub-oscine.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB8Jq26dw6k
>
> A screen-capture is here:
>
> www.jleonard.net/mysterybird.jpg
>
> But you might get more detail by watching the video.
>
> cheers
>
> —
> John Leonard
>
>
>
>
> ——————————
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 09:50:53 +1100
> From: “Philip Veerman” < pveerman@pcug.org.au>
> To: <
birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] FW: mystery bird on YouTube. No mystery.
> Further info.
> Message-ID: <
003301d2aa71$406e4300$c14ac900$@org.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”UTF-8″
>
> Hi All,
>
> This comment has just come in from an expert in western USA………
>
> Philip
>
> —–Original Message—–From: Kimball Garrett [

> Kimball
>
> Kimball L. Garrett
> Ornithology Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County
> 900 Exposition Blvd.
> Los Angeles, CA 90007 USA
> (213) 763-3368
>
kgarrett@nhm.org
> www.nhm.org/site/research-collections/ornithology
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Philip Veerman [www.nhm.org/site/research-collections/ornithology
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Philip Veerman [naturalight@graemechapman.com.au>
> To: birding-aus@birding-aus.org
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Malurus assimilis dulcis – The Sandstone
> Fairy-wren
> Message-ID:
> < 0908E715-B5E3-49A5-B4DD-82C16BBCDD8D@graemechapman.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> This very distinctive form of the Variegated Fairy-wren is mainly associated with the sandstone country of Arnhem Land.
>
> To the average birdwatcher, the breeding males look much like any other Variegated F/W but females, winter males and immatures are another story. They are blue, not brown.
>
> The females in particular are quite different because they have white lores – they look more like a Lovely Fairy-wren, indeed they were once thought to be a form of that species.
>
> However it has been shown that further south in the N.T. there are intermediates where the blue grades to brown. So they are regarded at present as a subspecies of the Variegated.
>
> Soon I plan to visit the N.T. and hope to photograph both the white-lored dulcis females and any intermediate birds I can find.
>
> This is a request for help. I know Variegated Fairy-wrens occur around Katherine, Pine Creek, Mataranka etc. If you have seen them there, did the females have white lores? Unfortunately most people, once they’ve seen a male, don’t bother looking at females.
>
> In addition, does anyone know of a site close to Jabiru (say) where they occur, that doesn’t involve climbing to the top of an escarpment.
>
> I know they are easy to find up the top at Gunlom, and also they have been seen at Edith Falls, not good for my knees these days.
>
> Finally a word to all you keen twitchers that are paying big money to chase White-throated Grasswrens. Don’t ignore the Fairy-wrens, they will be right alongside, and make sure you see a female! A beautiful bird, they are eminently twitchable!
>
> Regards
>
> Graeme Chapman
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 10:17:01 +1100
> From: Peter Shute <
pshute@nuw.org.au>
> To: John Leonard <
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com>
> Cc: “
birding-aus@birding-aus.org” < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube
> Message-ID: <
A0BA70A5-7BC4-4130-A825-22594C79006F@nuw.org.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”us-ascii”
>
> You could ask them in a comment on the video where that footage is from, and hope they reply.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 1 Apr 2017, at 9:20 am, John Leonard <
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks everyone for this identification as a Steller’s Jay.
>>
>> I suspect the author of the video just put together all the footage he could find of these type of boulders and this segment happened to be from western US, even though the main subject was an area in southern Rumania!
>>
>> John Leonard
>>
>>
>>> On 1 Apr 2017, at 4:25 AM, Gary Davidson <
gsd37@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> Definitely a Steller’s Jay, the question is, how did it get to Europe. This bird lives only on the west coast of North America, not a likely vagrant that far east! It is an extremely rare bird anywhere in the eastern half of NA.
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> From: calyptorhynchus . <
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com>
>>> To: “
birding-aus@birding-aus.org” < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:49 AM
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube
>>>
>>> 1.07 minutes into this video on Trovants (a peculiar form of sandstone
>>> boulders found in Rumania), there is an appearance of a bird I can’t
>>> identify. I would say it definitely isn’t a European bird and looks more
>>> like a S American sub-oscine.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB8Jq26dw6k
>>>
>>> A screen-capture is here:
>>>
>>>
www.jleonard.net/mysterybird.jpg
>>>
>>> But you might get more detail by watching the video.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> —
>>> John Leonard
>>>

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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 10:22:37 +1100
> From: Brian Fleming < flambeau@labyrinth.net.au>
> To:
birding-aus@birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] bird names – again
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> Note date!
>
> Anthea Fleming
>
>
>> On 1/04/2017 7:46 AM, Peter Waanders wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I’ve been forwarded the below email which I thought I’d share with the
>> group in light of recent discussion about bird names. It appears the Aust
>> gov’t is moving ahead with adopting an updated bird taxonomy.
>> Please remember I’m only the messenger… :-)
>> cheers
>> Peter
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> From: *Ludus, Malcolm (DEE)* <
Malcolm.Ludus@environment.gov.au>
>> Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:47 PM
>> Subject: RE: bird classification [DLM=For-Official-Use-Only]
>> To:

>>
>> For Official Use Only
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I’ve dug up the information we touched on during the discussion about bird
>> taxonomy at this week’s meeting and thought I’d forward to you – please see
>> link below:
>>
>>
www.icbn2017.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, Mandy have you had a chance to distribute the updated documents yet?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Malcolm.
>>

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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 09:31:18 +1000
> From: Laurie Knight < l.knight@optusnet.com.au>
> To: Rob Gully <
rgully@dcsi.net.au>
> Cc: Peter Waanders <
waanders.peter@gmail.com>, Birding Aus
> <
birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] bird names – again
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> Yes, the ?remove sexist names? gives the game away.
>
>> On 1 Apr 2017, at 7:28 am, Rob Gully <
rgully@dcsi.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> It is April 1 isn’t it.
>>
>> Rob Gully
>> 0434 140 880
>>
>> —–Original Message—–
>> From: Birding-Aus [
>
>> Hi all,
>> I’ve been forwarded the below email which I thought I’d share with the group
>> in light of recent discussion about bird names. It appears the Aust gov’t is
>> moving ahead with adopting an updated bird taxonomy.
>> Please remember I’m only the messenger… :-) cheers Peter
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> From: *Ludus, Malcolm (DEE)* <
Malcolm.Ludus@environment.gov.au>
>> Date: Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:47 PM
>> Subject: RE: bird classification [DLM=For-Official-Use-Only]
>> To:
>>
>> For Official Use Only
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I’ve dug up the information we touched on during the discussion about bird
>> taxonomy at this week’s meeting and thought I’d forward to you – please see
>> link below:
>>
>> www.icbn2017.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, Mandy have you had a chance to distribute the updated documents yet?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Malcolm.
>>

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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 14:27:36 +1100
> From: Carl Clifford < carlsclifford@gmail.com>
> To: Philip Veerman <
pveerman@pcug.org.au>
> Cc: “calyptorhynchus .” <
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com>,
> “
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube. No mystery.
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> That type of concretion, is also coung in NZ.
>
>
>> On Saturday, April 1, 2017, Philip Veerman <
pveerman@pcug.org.au> wrote:
>>
>> And who trusts things on utube? People splice in stuff from all over. Just
>> because these stones are found in Romania does not mean only Romania. At
>> 4:08 minutes the narrator (it is quite a strain to keep up with him), says
>> that these stones are found elsewhere mentioning amongst other places e.g.
>> Wyoming, that is western USA, and clearly within the range of Steller’s
>> Jay. So a bit of extra film slotted in there. Nothing odd there.
>>
>> Philip
>>
>> —–Original Message—–
>> From: Birding-Aus [
calyptorhynchus@gmail.com >
>> To: “birding-aus@birding-aus.org
” <>> birding-aus@birding-aus.org >
>> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:49 AM
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] mystery bird on YouTube
>>
>> 1.07 minutes into this video on Trovants (a peculiar form of sandstone
>> boulders found in Rumania), there is an appearance of a bird I can’t
>> identify. I would say it definitely isn’t a European bird and looks more
>> like a S American sub-oscine.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB8Jq26dw6k
>>
>> A screen-capture is here:
>>
>> www.jleonard.net/mysterybird.jpg
>>
>> But you might get more detail by watching the video.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> —
>> John Leonard
>>
>>
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