Little Grebe in Darwin 2008 – revisit thread

Hi Folks,

Sorry to revisit this but I am going through the IOC updates and noticed that the Little Grebe has been split into 2, Little and Tricolour.

IOC states:

ruficollis (Pallas, 1764) Little Grebe EU, AF, OR widespread

ruficollis (Pallas, 1764) Europe to the Ural Mts. and nw Africa

albescens (Blanford, 1877) Caucasus to Burma and Sri Lanka

iraquensis (Ticehurst, 1923) Iraq, sw Iran

capensis (Salvadori, 1884) Africa s of the Sahara, Madagascar

poggei (Reichenow, 1902) ne to se Asia, Kuril Is., Japan, Taiwan

philippensis (Bonnaterre, 1791) Philippines (except Mindanao)

cotabato (Rand, 1948) Mindanao (Philippines)

tricolor (Gray, GR, 1861) Tricolored Grebe OR, AU Java, Sulawesi, Lesser Sundas, New Guinea, Solomon Is.

vulcanorum (Rensch, 1929) Sulawesi, n Moluccas to New Guinea

tricolor (Gray, GR, 1861) Java and Timor, the Lesser Sundas

collaris (Mayr, 1945) ne New Guinea to Bougainville I. (Solomon Is.)

Anyone know what the 2008 vagrant was?? Range would suggest “Tricolor”

Cheers

Steve Potter

Eurasian Little Grebe

from [ http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bfr om%3Anhaass%40yahoo.com&idxname=birding-aus&sort=date%3Alate> Nikolas Haass]

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To:

Steve Potter , birding-aus@vicnet.net.au

Subject:

Eurasian Little Grebe

From:

Nikolas Haass

Date:

Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:14:57 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Steve,

There are several subspecies of Little Grebe. No split that I know of. Little Grebe occurs in Eurasia, North Africa and sub-saharan Africa (including parts of Madagascar). There are two distinct species in Madagascar (one of which is most probably extinct: Alaotra Grebe, aka Delacour’s Little Grebe; the other one – Madagascar Grebe – is threatened). To complete the Tachybaptus list: there are Australasian Grebe here and Least Grebe in the subtropical and tropical Americas.

Nikolas

1 comment to Little Grebe in Darwin 2008 – revisit thread

  • Carl Clifford

    Steve,

    Thanks for that. A nice little armchair tick.

    Cheers,

    Carl Clifford

    Hi Folks,

    Sorry to revisit this but I am going through the IOC updates and noticed that the Little Grebe has been split into 2, Little and Tricolour.

    IOC states:

    ruficollis (Pallas, 1764) Little Grebe EU, AF, OR widespread

    ruficollis (Pallas, 1764) Europe to the Ural Mts. and nw Africa

    albescens (Blanford, 1877) Caucasus to Burma and Sri Lanka

    iraquensis (Ticehurst, 1923) Iraq, sw Iran

    capensis (Salvadori, 1884) Africa s of the Sahara, Madagascar

    poggei (Reichenow, 1902) ne to se Asia, Kuril Is., Japan, Taiwan

    philippensis (Bonnaterre, 1791) Philippines (except Mindanao)

    cotabato (Rand, 1948) Mindanao (Philippines)

    tricolor (Gray, GR, 1861) Tricolored Grebe OR, AU Java, Sulawesi, Lesser Sundas, New Guinea, Solomon Is.

    vulcanorum (Rensch, 1929) Sulawesi, n Moluccas to New Guinea

    tricolor (Gray, GR, 1861) Java and Timor, the Lesser Sundas

    collaris (Mayr, 1945) ne New Guinea to Bougainville I. (Solomon Is.)

    Anyone know what the 2008 vagrant was?? Range would suggest “Tricolor”

    Cheers

    Steve Potter

    Eurasian Little Grebe

    from [ http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bfr om%3Anhaass%40yahoo.com&idxname=birding-aus&sort=date%3Alate> Nikolas Haass]

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    Steve Potter , birding-aus@vicnet.net.au

    Eurasian Little Grebe

    Nikolas Haass

    Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:14:57 -0700 (PDT)

    Hi Steve,

    There are several subspecies of Little Grebe. No split that I know of. Little Grebe occurs in Eurasia, North Africa and sub-saharan Africa (including parts of Madagascar). There are two distinct species in Madagascar (one of which is most probably extinct: Alaotra Grebe, aka Delacour’s Little Grebe; the other one – Madagascar Grebe – is threatened). To complete the Tachybaptus list: there are Australasian Grebe here and Least Grebe in the subtropical and tropical Americas.

    Nikolas