Hi all,
One of my colleagues from work has sent me a number of photo prints.
They are from his mother who has been a keen backyard birder for many years in Inisfail FNQ. She sent me a number of photos of birds to be IDd and I had no problems with them apart from this bird, which is proving to be a bit more of a puzzle. See the 2 photos of it on the following link: https://picasaweb.google.com/107873536676981712804
Unfortunately the photos are very poor quality, which doesn’t help with the ID.
The bird arrived in her back yard recently after a cyclone and the only other time she has seen them was also during/ after a cyclone 3/4 years ago.
A possible immature Leaden Flycatcher?
I’d be interested in everyone’s thoughts as to what it might be
cheers
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your analysis of the photos and the bird. An aberrant photo, and not an exoctic, or an aberrant Aus species! A female Satin or a Leaden, it is then.
I asked for your opinion because my poor brain does not cope with a) being able to see past and through a poor photo of an exoctic-looking bird to what lies beneath, and b) reading statements, even though based on an expertise well beyond mine, that it is a Leaden or a Broad-billed without knowing exactly why. I may well be wrong about being ‘certain’ it is not a Leaden, but now I know why!
Many thanks.
Judith
Brisbane 0437549301
G’day Judith great to hear from you, Firstly it’s really poor image quality, unbelievably poor resolution and over saturated, so that is influencing the impression a lot, pixels can mutate under these conditions to give all sorts of false impressions. It sort of looks like a heavy piece of impressionistic water colour painting.Contrary to impressions my money/house would be on female Satin or Leaden Flycatcher. If seeing is believing then it looks as though there is some warm colour in the wing and whitish tips only to the inner most greater coverts, if all of that is real then the bird is a female Satin Flycatcher. The only thing against Satin would be time of year in the tropics but it’s not impossible. If the bird was a youngish Myiagra with a worn wing showing brownish(warm coloured) you would be more likely to see the white tips in the lesser coverts towards the bend of the wing, infact you would probably see it even in a poor photo. So the question is are we seeing what’s really there, if so it’s a Satin for mine otherwise one of the two Satin or Leaden. When faced with an extremely poor photo of a Monarch that gives odd impressions, the odds are stacked heavily towards it being in reality an extremely poor photo of a Monarch that gives odd impressions rather than an exotic, if you get what I mean. I was going to let it go through to the keeper but will always answer a direct questioning. Cheers Jeff. From: Judith Hoyle [mailto:puffin_54@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 9 January 2012 10:54 PM
What are your views on this bird? Certain it is not a Leaden and do not think it is a Broad-billed as suggested bt Chris Sanderson.
Is this an Austraian first or an aberrant Aus species??
Regards
Judith
Brisbane 0437549302
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Hi guys
Without seeing the undertail structure, you have to say this bird is a Leaden Flycathcer. The first image has a lot of warm browns on the underside & also on the upperparts that do not appear on the 2nd image. I would sy without a better set of pics that you can go no further than a Leaden. Maybe some better pics can be obtained…??!! Cheers Martin Cachard,Cairns,0428 782 808
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Hi Charlie,
Your bird is very strongly coloured, I am leaning towards it possibly being a male Broad-billed Flycatcher, though several of the important ID features are not visible. Regardless I’m sure you are right that it is a flycatcher from the same genus as Leaden at least.
I’d be interested in other people’s experience with male Broad-billed FC vs female Leaden FC, as in Broome I always found them quite easy to tell apart based on the richness and extent of the orange (with female Broad-bills being a little less easy). Mind you we only had a few Leadens show up the year I was there.
Regards, Chris
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Charlie Andrews
G’day Charlie et al.
I reckon the structure is wrong for a Leaden Flycatcher. A bit too plump.
Have you ruled out imm. Spectacled Monarch?
Otherwise I’d be looking in se Asian field guides.
Cheers Steve
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