ID help- Wonga or White headed pigeon in Brisbane?

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Hi all,

Today my partner and I accidently flushed a large pigeon from a small leafy tree in Mornningside Park, Brisbane, in an area where the pale headed Rosellas normally feed. We only caught a quick glimpse of it as it flew away & perched (back facing us), then it flew one more time into a bigger, even leafier tree.

>From behind it looked almost completely slate grey or black, which faded into a more buff colour at the top of its head. Its wings made a distinctive sound when we flushed it; not quite as loud as a Crested pigeon’s `wing flap’, but still loud and distinctive.

Any ideas what this could be? From my bird guide, the possibilities seem to be either a Wonga pigeon, or a female white headed pigeon?

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6 responses to “ID help- Wonga or White headed pigeon in Brisbane?”

  1. "Tony Russell"  Avatar
    “Tony Russell”

    I’ve seen plenty of Wongas in trees around Eden in SE NSW.

    Tony

  2. Tom Tarrant  Avatar
    Tom Tarrant

    Hi Chris & Birding-ausers,

    If you need proof that Wonga go into trees, have a look at this ancient piece of video:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3298468959838970791#

    Tom

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  3. Rob Geraghty  Avatar
    Rob Geraghty
  4. Belinda Cassidy  Avatar
    Belinda Cassidy

    Hi Peter & Chris,

    Thanks, I really appreciate the info!

    Chris, thanks for mentioning the possibility of it being a Top Knot pigeon. I have seen Top Knot pigeons in flight before, and my first gut instinct was that this might me one. But I didn’t know they were in Brisbane..thanks heaps for letting me know!

    One reason I might be able to rule out the Wonga pigeon is it says in my Bird Guide that they have proportionally long tails. This one had a proportionally short tail, kind of straight at the end, and stubby (slightly fanned out in flight).

    I hope I see it again. I would also love to get another tick! We have 66 different bird species in Morning side Park now, but I haven’t seen anything new for a long time. I forgot how exciting that can be!!

    Cheers, Belinda

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  5. peter Avatar
    peter

    I’ve only seen Wonga Pigeons around Bright, in Victoria. When flushed from the ground they often end up in a tree, and I’ve often seen them sitting in trees and on fences around the edge of town. These ones don’t flush easily, I suspect people feed them, so this might not be typical behaviour.

    They do tend to face away from me when they land after flushing, like Belinda described, and I was under the impression that was typical Wonga behaviour, raising the tail and presenting the black and white vent as camouflage. (Did I read that in P&K?) Not sure if White-headed Pigeons do that too.

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  6. Chris Sanderson  Avatar
    Chris Sanderson

    Hi Belinda,

    I would say in suburban Brisbane that White-headed Pigeon is more likely, backed up by the fact your bird was in a tree (not sure I’ve ever seen a Wonga Pigeon off the ground, how about other birding-aussies?). Are you sure Topknot Pigeon is out of the question? It is also grey on the wings and back, and quite large. Topknots are less likely than White-headed in suburban Brisbane, but I do see them here occasionally.

    Regards, Chris Sanderson

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