Canon Cameras (regarding TCs)

Hi all,

there’s a useful comparison for the use of TCs done here (scroll down a bit) http://www.juzaphoto.com/eng/articles/canon_600_f4_l_is_usm_review.htm It’s for a 600 mm lens but as far as I know the 500 f4 actually even deals a bit better with TCs than the 600mm. There’s little doubt that the conclusion from this studio test is that a) the 2x TC gives additional detail compared to 1.4x TC but b) you need to be able to shoot at f11 to really benefit from this c) stacking ain’t worth it

Of course this is but one guy testing his equipment in his way.

Still helpful I think. I have done the same tests on my 500 f4 with approximately the same conclusion. My 2x shots look a bit more mushy than his, but maybe that’s because I used a Kenko Pro (tested on a MkIV). After some effort in post processing I get a good looking image with more detail than with my Canon 1.4x. In real world conditions, images with the 2x tend to be a little on the soft side with a lack of contrast, and they definitely need quite a bit more post processing, but if the light conditions are superb, I’d consider it worthwhile using the 2x TC.

I think the main conclusion with the 2xTC is to always avoid it if possible and try to get closer, but if you can’t approach the bird and the conditions are really great then it’s better to have a shot with the 2x than a very heavy crop with a 1.4x. This will never result in a picture that looks stunning on a pixel-level, but it will give a picture that looks pretty much perfect if you do a 13cmx19cm print from a full frame. For web pictures there’s simply no doubt that the 2x TC is worthwhile. The truth is also that it is always some hassle to change the TCs, care needs to be taken to avoid dust and scratches, so in the vast majority of days I leave the 1.4x permanently on my 500 f4. When I was shooting with a 300 f2.8 the 2x converter was pretty much permanently on, unsless I go for flight shots in which case I take all converters off.

Just my 2cents, Ingo

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Alistair McKeough < alistair.mckeough@gmail.com> wrote:

> My experience mirrors David’s. In fact, I sold the 2x converter for that > reason. > > Gitzo tripod, Markins M20, Wimberley sidekick, all locked down tight and > still… > > Are the images good? Yes. But you do notice they’re not *quite* as sharp > and > I find it annoying! Maybe I’m too much of a pixel peeper though Akos – I > know Art Morris happily uses a 2x when he needs the reach. > > Also, bear in mind that Dave is the sort of lucky bugger that can get his > hands on an 800 when needs the reach… > > Al > > > > On 26 November 2010 08:22, David Stowe wrote: > > > Akos > > The 500mm is such a sharp lens that you get used to a certain level of > > quality. With a 1.4x I don’t really notice the difference, whereas with a > 2x > > I do notice a difference in quality. Nothing to do with technique. I also > > have reasonable shots with stacked converters but you could never say > they > > are as sharp as the 500mm by itself. > > Obviously its easy to make these images look sharp when resizing for web > > forums and adding sharpening etc, but at 100% i personally find a > > difference. > > Cheers > > Dave > > > > On 26/11/2010, at 7:43 AM, Ákos Lumnitzer wrote: > > > > David > > > > I have to disagree about the Canon EF 2x. Maybe you have a bad copy or I > > have a fabulous one. Under the right circumstances and using solid > technique > > I most certainly get more than good enough quality images and I don’t > even > > use a 500/4L yet. Even stacking a 1.4x and a 2x I can get very good > results > > (hand holding!). Just food for thought. I admit, I am no pixel peeper, > but > > certainly have a very good grasp of this funny thing called photography > and > > professional nature photographers world-wide like what I am capable of > > producing. What my point is that there are many factors to consider > with > > converters; light, lens, technique, converter quality (individuals most > > likely differ) and so on. I won’t even touch the subject of cropping > > (excessively) as many now do because they have 15+ megapixel cameras. > > > > respectfully yours > > > > Akos > > (just an amateur in many worlds) > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > http://birding-aus.org >