It’s a case of political lists vs biogeographical lists.
I suspect that relatively few birders maintain both types of list.
On 09/01/2011, at 11:56 AM, david taylor wrote:
> Another who agrees – I would love to bird Christmas Island and the > Cocos Islands but this recent notion that they are part of the > Australian bird list is in my opinion flawed – they may be > Australian Territories but are vast distances from Australia, > Surley just because they are Australian territories does not make > them Australian birds? > > I pose the scenario that if next year a country in South America > became an Australian Territory that some of our twitchers would be > adding Toucans to the Australian list – this may seem silly but in > reality what is the difference in the two scenarios. I struggle too > see how distance can form the basis of the argument? Cocos islands > are 3600 kms due west of Darwin. Darwin to Thailand is less distance > – if it became a territory would we be adding all of their birds? > > I would be interested to hear the attitude of those who do believe > these birds are valid on the Australian list because they are > Australian Territories and if so what would be the difference if > indeed we gained a new territory in a place like Sth America or Asia? > > And as Tom points out – do the French birders add New Caledonia > birds because its a territory of theirs? > > Seems its great sport for our twitchers (and absolutely nothing > wrong with that) – but a long bow for mine that they form part of > the Australian bird list. > > But each to his own and great birding all. > > cheers > > David Taylor > > > > On 09/01/2011, at 10:32 AM, Carl Clifford wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> I heartily agree. You could almost say that birding on Christmas >> and Cocos was SE Asian birding for xenophobes, except for the fact >> that the population of Cocos is mainly Malay and the population of >> Christmas is mainly Middle Eastern, albeit they are banged-up in a >> concentration camp >> >> Cheers, >> >> Carl Clifford >> >> >> On 09/01/2011, at 7:38 AM, Tom Tarrant wrote: >> >> Hi Frank, >> >> I think you are missing the point regarding that comment, as >> exciting as >> Christmas and Cocos sound (I would love to go birding there!) they >> are not >> in the same faunal zone as Australia so many birders don’t see the >> relevance. You may as well go New Caledonia and add those species >> to your >> ‘French’ list. >> >> Tom >> >> >> >>> And I remember there was a comment about the possible Short-toed >>> Eagle in >>> Victoria being better than the rarities reported on Cocos and >>> Christmas in >>> December. Sorry. Not even close!!! I saw 11 new birds for my >>> Australian >>> list, and I dipped on two. Even Mike Carter added 9 birds to his >>> Australian >>> list. >>> >>> >> — >> ******************************** >> Tom Tarrant >> Kobble Creek, Qld >> >> http://kobble.aviceda.org >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com.au/aviceda/ >> ******************************** >> =============================== >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, >> send the message: >> unsubscribe >> (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >> to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au >> >> http://birding-aus.org >> =============================== >> >> =============================== >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list,send the message: >> unsubscribe(in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >> to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au >> >> http://birding-aus.org >> =============================== > > David Taylor > Brisbane > damasa@bigpond.net.au > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > http://birding-aus.org >
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