Re National Parks
By Birding-Aus, on March 6th, 2014
I apologize for my rude remarks about timber workers made last night, very much in the heat of the moment. I wish however to most strongly disagree with the Prime Minister’s statement that we have too many National Parks. Our National Parks need far more funding and far more staff – and then they would contribute to the economy via tourism. Anthea Fleming _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
Having visited many parks in both the US and here it seems that the level of money spent on parks in the US is much greater than here – in part I suspect because most US parks charge admission which is not the case in many areas of Aus – and the money seems to get spent. Rangers are fairly common in the US – try finding one in most Australian parks! Of course commercial development is allowed in many US parks which is not allowed in Aus – but in most cases it seems that the area affected is relatively small and if it allows for money to be spent on the rest of the park I do not have a problem with the concept On 6 March 2014 09:37, Eric Jeffrey < ecj100@aol.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
have too soon, while were I’m doubtlessly oversimplifying and will probably regred posting…but the situation in Australia is far, far worse than in the USA. Australia has nothing comparable to the Environmental Protection Act. The various levels and categories of protected land in Australia are also seemingly without a larger plan and largely at the whim of the government of the day. There isn’t a central legal act, there isn’t a central planning authority, and there isn’t an outcome/target-based approach to land management. Basically, there’s a bunch of land “locked up” but without any coherent program. I guess reducing the trees in the world’s most deforested ice-free continent could be a plan… While we’re on it, I’m only a few chapters into a *fascinating* book called “The Biggest Estate on Earth: How Aborigines Made Australia.” I was aware of the concept of firestick farming but had no idea that it’s plausible that the entire Australian landscape at first European contact was a made thing. Mind-blowing and beautifully written and researched. You really have to wonder about the bird distributions on this continent back then…Grasswren might have been common and widespread… Things are tough in the US but, at the least, a concerned group can sue the government into doing their jobs…at least some of the time. We would already have a few birds less in Hawaii otherwise. Here? No chance. In Victoria, feral deer are protected as native wildlife (with a harvest period). Odd, to say the least. I live in timber country in NSW and, frankly, it’s a disgrace. There is absolutely no possibility that the cost of harvesting, transporting and processing these trees is cost effective given the prices on the world pulp market. The NSW government subsidizes these efforts massively so it’s a drain on the taxpayers for a handful of jobs. Having grown up near Gloucester, MA I can remember what it was like as the cod fisheries collapsed. It’s a tough business all around. The fishermen that suffered really did suffer. Over-extraction really only does one thing to jobs. It makes them go away. _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
Hi All, I’ve just read the morning’s news. It seems that a large multi-national corporation has avoided paying billions to Australia in tax dollars by sending profits to offshore accounts. This is possibly only one of many such companies which undertake this practice. It’s time the politicians stopped their kowtowing to these corporations and collected the revenue to which Australia is entitled and then they would have sufficient funds to keep National Parks in tact. Sandra Gallienne —–Original Message—– brian fleming Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 8:31 AM I apologize for my rude remarks about timber workers made last night, very much in the heat of the moment. I wish however to most strongly disagree with the Prime Minister’s statement that we have too many National Parks. Our National Parks need far more funding and far more staff – and then they would contribute to the economy via tourism. Anthea Fleming _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
I have not been to Australia in 20 years, but my recollection is that the National Parks were wonderful. Apparently you have the same problems we have here in the U.S. — insufficient money to properly maintain the parks and too many politicians who could care less. I guess I will need to return soon, while they are all there, and to see Royal National Park, which burned while we were over there. Eric Jeffrey Falls Church, VA USA —–Original Message—– Sent: Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:31 pm I apologize for my rude remarks about timber workers made last night, ery much in the heat of the moment. wish however to most strongly disagree with the Prime Minister’s tatement that we have too many National Parks. Our National Parks need ar more funding and far more staff – and then they would contribute to he economy via tourism. Anthea Fleming _______________________________________________ irding-Aus mailing list irding-Aus@birding-aus.org o change settings or unsubscribe visit: ttp://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
Mike You would think that, but actually in the U.S. the saying has illogically always been “could care less” when what is really meant is “couldn’t care less.” Perhaps it works because we say it with a sarcastic tone. I don’t know the origins, but it has been the common way of saying it at least since I was a kid more than 50 years ago. Best, Eric In a message dated 3/5/2014 6:58:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, badgersinbucks@btinternet.com writes: Same in the UK and Ireland sadly but we also have lots of nasty killing type people to contend with as well ( one of the first two White-tailed Sea Eagles to breed in Ireland was found shot last week with 50 pellets in the bird ). Eric think you meant to say politicians who could not care less………… Best/Mike Sent from my Blackberry —–Original Message—– Sender: “Birding-Aus” < birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org> I have not been to Australia in 20 years, but my recollection is that the National Parks were wonderful. Apparently you have the same problems we have here in the U.S. — insufficient money to properly maintain the parks and too many politicians who could care less. I guess I will need to return soon, while they are all there, and to see Royal National Park, which burned while we were over there. Eric Jeffrey Falls Church, VA USA —–Original Message—– Sent: Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:31 pm I apologize for my rude remarks about timber workers made last night, ery much in the heat of the moment. wish however to most strongly disagree with the Prime Minister’s tatement that we have too many National Parks. Our National Parks need ar more funding and far more staff – and then they would contribute to he economy via tourism. Anthea Fleming _______________________________________________ irding-Aus mailing list irding-Aus@birding-aus.org o change settings or unsubscribe visit: ttp://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
Same in the UK and Ireland sadly but we also have lots of nasty killing type people to contend with as well ( one of the first two White-tailed Sea Eagles to breed in Ireland was found shot last week with 50 pellets in the bird ). Eric think you meant to say politicians who could not care less………… Best/Mike Sent from my Blackberry —–Original Message—– Sender: “Birding-Aus” < birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org> I have not been to Australia in 20 years, but my recollection is that the National Parks were wonderful. Apparently you have the same problems we have here in the U.S. — insufficient money to properly maintain the parks and too many politicians who could care less. I guess I will need to return soon, while they are all there, and to see Royal National Park, which burned while we were over there. Eric Jeffrey Falls Church, VA USA —–Original Message—– Sent: Wed, Mar 5, 2014 5:31 pm I apologize for my rude remarks about timber workers made last night, ery much in the heat of the moment. wish however to most strongly disagree with the Prime Minister’s tatement that we have too many National Parks. Our National Parks need ar more funding and far more staff – and then they would contribute to he economy via tourism. Anthea Fleming _______________________________________________ irding-Aus mailing list irding-Aus@birding-aus.org o change settings or unsubscribe visit: ttp://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org