Dear all A comment from Steve Debus (Steve does not own a television set). Regards Shirley —– Original Message —– From: “Stephen Debus” <sdebus@une.edu.au> To: “Shirley Cook” <shirleycook@skymesh.com.au> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [Birding-Aus] [canberrabirds] Peregrine Falcons on BondiVET (Channel 10 TV) > Hi Shirley, > > Without knowing anything about the program or having seen it, it sounds > like the handled birds were fledgling Peregrines that were just capable of > flight, or maybe were forcibly fledged prematurely. That they could fly, > even a bit, is a good sign; the parents would find them and feed them, > although if fledged a bit early the juveniles would be at greater risk of > mishap. With so much raptor expertise readily at hand, e.g. Taronga Zoo > or NPWS or WIRES (or BirdLife; the Raptor Association has a NSW Rep and > expert members in Sydney), the vet should have sought proper advice and > had some more factual content in the program. The ‘thrush’ symptoms could > have been frounce or canker (trichomoniasis), which Peregrines catch from > eating feral pigeons. It sounds like the whole episode was handled by > bumbling idiots who didn’t know what they were doing (or should be doing), > or whom they should ask, but that’s TV journalism I guess. > > Cheers, > > Steve > > > > > > > At 05:20 PM 25/11/13, you wrote: >>Dear Steve >> >>I didn’t forward the first message in this thread because it refers to a >>television program; the latest note summarises what it was all about and >>poses a question about feeding. >> >>Regards >>Shirley >>—– Original Message —– From: “Peter Shute” <pshute@nuw.org.au> >>To: “Peter Ormay” <peterormay@dodo.com.au> >>Cc: “COG Chatline” <canberrabirds@canberrabirds.org.au>; >><birding-aus@vicnet.net.au> >>Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 3:16 PM >>Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] [canberrabirds] Peregrine Falcons on BondiVET >>(Channel 10 TV) >> >> >>>Against my better judgement, I just watched it on the ten website. >>> >>>They had streaked breast plumage rather than barred, and at one point he >>>said the first one was “a young adult, from the plumage”, so he was aware >>>of the plumage difference. But I wasn’t able to see anything that would >>>indicate they might not have fledged yet. Perhaps a tiny bit of down on >>>top of the head? >>> >>>I assume they couldn’t be breeding in that plumage. How old would they >>>have to be? >>> >>>He may have been fooled by the fact that the building staff captured >>>them, yet the nest was 20m below the roof of a high building. No matter >>>where they were caught, roof or ground, they could only have flown there, >>>yet couldn’t or wouldn’t fly when approached. To someone who didn’t know >>>what stage they were at, that wouldn’t really add up to them being >>>fledglings. >>> >>>He may have simply believed the staff’s opinion that they were the >>>adults, and then the need to include something in the show other than >>>more bloody dogs took over. >>> >>>For those who can’t be bothered watching it on the web site, all 5 >>>minutes or so of it, interspersed with 55 minutes of ads and dog kissing, >>>in an interface that doesn’t allow fast forward or rewind, they were >>>released on top of the building in the last minute of the show. One flew >>>off and began soaring, the other glided to the roof of a nearby building. >>>That seemed like a risky process with birds that might not be able to >>>fly, but might be frightened enough to try. >>> >>>The birds were fed for a few days, and one was treated with antibiotics >>>for “thrush”, so probably no harm done? Do peregrines abandon their young >>>if they’ve been handled like this? Do they still feed them after >>>fledging? >>> >>>Peter Shute >>> >>>Sent from my iPad >>> >>>>On 25 Nov 2013, at 12:03 pm, “Peter Ormay” <peterormay@dodo.com.au> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>I saw that Bondi Vet show and got the impression that he mistook the >>>>juvenile falcons for adults or just made up a story out of ignorance. >>>>The >>>>adults were clearly buzzing him. He ever asked for a hard hat. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>What I missed in the story was where the supposedly injured falcons came >>>>from. Were they collected at ground level? >>>> >>>>Peter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From: Philip Veerman [mailto:pveerman@pcug.org.au] >>>>Sent: Sunday, 24 November 2013 11:36 PM >>>>To: birding-aus@vicnet.net.au; ‘COG Chatline’ >>>>Subject: [canberrabirds] Peregrine Falcons on Bondi VET (Channel 10 TV) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I saw bits of this story yesterday in between other things but I >>>>couldn’t >>>>work out what was supposed to be happening. He had a family of Peregrine >>>>Falcons that were nesting in some building in Sydney, that were >>>>supposedly >>>>having some problems (that I missed hearing what he thought that was) >>>>but >>>>then he had two clearly young birds (by their plumage) taken from there >>>>that >>>>looked like they were probably about to fledge. The story seemed to me >>>>to be >>>>that he thought these two were the adult breeding pair, which they >>>>clearly >>>>weren’t (both showing all the features of juvenal plumage) and that >>>>something was wrong with them, but they looked fine. Then when looking >>>>in >>>>the nest site he couldn’t work out where the chicks were (but he had >>>>them in >>>>a box). The footage also cut away to what were clearly the adults flying >>>>around the nest site as they normally do. So I was lost as to the >>>>message he >>>>was trying to tell. It seemed completely wonky to me. He seemed >>>>surprised >>>>that these two birds seemed reluctant to fly but it makes sense that >>>>they >>>>probably had never flown before. Did anyone who saw this make better >>>>sense >>>>of it than I did? Of course there is no mechanism that I can see to send >>>>this message to the show. >>>> >>>>Philip >>>> >>>>=============================== >>>> >>>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, >>>>send the message: >>>>unsubscribe >>>>(in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >>>>to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au >>>> >>>>http://birding-aus.org >>>>=============================== >>>=============================== >>> >>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list, >>>send the message: >>>unsubscribe >>>(in the body of the message, with no Subject line) >>>to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au >>> >>>http://birding-aus.org >>>=============================== > > > > —– > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG – www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6864 – Release Date: 11/24/13 > =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au http://birding-aus.org ===============================
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