As much as I like bird watching, I think this issue about “tickable” is amusing. The word itself implies (to me) that there is a yes or no answer, which surely has been shown not to be true. Many shades of grey. If talking about your own list, then why would anyone else care? If you wish to compare with others, then agree on your terms, which might differ from yet other people. Is there any consequence of breaking someone else’s rules on this? Although it does seem to me to be a bit emotionally vacuous to include free roaming domestics and recent dependent ferals, in a count, as though the number of species seen matters. (especially as it is hard to draw a dividing line). What matters is what birds live where and how they do it. I do advocate that records should be kept, so that we can monitor progress of problems. That only impacts on personal tick lists if you want it to. Each survey has its own protocols. Besides, I thought there is no Graylag Goose. I believe it is Greylag Goose. No one has made that correction, that I have noticed. Philip =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au http://birding-aus.org ===============================
Hi Philip and others following this stream of conversation, Strangely this species is posted on Eremaea Birds as Graylag, which is new to me as a Canadian and British citizen (now also Australian). So, going back to my first post re Graylag,it was merely an attempt to be culturally sensitive to the “local” spelling – happy to go back to Greylag. I have since seen that Graylag does not appear on the IOC listing for Australia (as with BUBO listing) and does not appear on the C&B Checklist that was being circulated around birding-aus as a useful resource. And yes, I will be steering clear of any emotionally vacuous attempts to include free-roaming domestics. There are plenty of other wonderful Australian native species to spend time observing (and ticking). Cheers, Paul =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) http://birding-aus.org ===============================
Hi everyone I personally think it’s ridiculous and pointless trying to tick off: Greylag Geese, Muscovy Duck, Guineafowl, peacocks etc. unless you know for a fact that the population is a viable one. So breeding has to occur for a number of years (I reckon about 50 to be safe!). Yes you see “Mallards” at lots of ornamental lakes, and they could be there for a number of years, but if you look closely where are the females? This is not a viable population! Apart from anything else I hate ticking these things anyway, so why add these things to your list just for the sake of it. you may as well go to the zoo & tick those birds! Part of the enjoyment of birdwatching in my view is to see wild birds in action, & although I hate ticking Mynas, Spotted Doves, Starlings , Sparrows, they are unfortunately part of the Aussie environment & so they are on my list, under introduced. I remember there were a flock of Greylag type Geese at the lakes around Kitty Miller Bay atPhillip Island for many years, at least 20. They looked so scummy, full of white and mottled birds, amongst birds that looked a little bit like ‘real’ Greylags’, I never ticked them. I never saw any evidence of breeding & now they have fortunately disappeared, so I don’t have to worry about them. I reckon keep your list free of these nasties & you’ll feel much better about your list of cool Aussie birds & just a few examples of viable introduced scummy foreign muck!-Kevin Bartram =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) http://birding-aus.org ===============================