Night Parrots and slander

There are some people who have recently posted to Birding-Aus who would not believe John Young even if he presented a living specimen of the night parrot in a cage. To those people, I don’t care what you think, but I do care when you use this forum to denigrate the reputation of somebody who has spent 17,000 hours looking for and finding the night parrot. May I suggest you use your time more constructively in finding your own evidence rather than demanding that evidence should be presented to you. Regards Alastair Sent from my iPad =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au http://birding-aus.org ===============================

2 comments to Night Parrots and slander

  • andrewt

    On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 08:40:42PM -0700, Nikolas Haass wrote: The Australian, like many major newspapers, claims to have a strict editorial policy of not digitally manipulating news photos. So on the face of it The Australian did not manipulate the photos, was unaware of the manipulation and would have disclosed the manipulation if it had been aware – if it proceeded in publishing the photos. Birdlife Australia hopefully was also unaware. Andrew =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) http://birding-aus.org ===============================

  • nhaass

    Dear Burt, Alastair & BirdingAus,   I believe ‘SHUT UP’ is a strong word, Burt, but it doesn’t convince me and it doesn’t change the situation. Looks like you haven’t read the most recent thread on Birding-Aus. You should do so. There is nothing emotional like your statements imply. There is an objective discussion about obvious image manipulations of the only two published images that are supposed to prove the existence of the Night Parrot! This has nothing to do whatsoever with how many hours someone has spent in the field. It is the fact that the images were manipulated.   BTW: The same manipulations that you can find in the Australian Birdlife magazine are also apparent in the newspaper coverage of the story indicating that the manipulations had happened prior to submission to Birdlife Australia.   It is too early to accept or reject the record as a genuine life Night Parrot. As I said earlier, at this point we don’t have any scientific evidence at all that Night Parrots still exist, as none of the original proofs have been presented so far.      However, there is hope that Night Parrots are still around, as Jeff Davies had mentioned: There should be 598 further photos (raw files) of the bird (hopefully some of which showing the other side of the bird), there should be a 17-second video (of which only a couple of seconds were revealed so far), there should be the so far unpublished DNA analysis (which may stem from a different bird, as JY has found the feather(s) during daytime on the roadside) and finally, there should be sound recordings. I hope this will all be published in a peer-reviewed journal and undergo proper scrutiny, so that the next step can be initiated: The conservation of this species and its habitat!   So fingers crossed!   Nikolas   —————- Nikolas Haass nhaass@yahoo.com Brisbane, QLD Well done Alastair. Come on you mob SHUT UP.                Kind Regards to the Good People.  Burt May —–Original Message—– [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of Alastair Smith Sent: Sunday, 13 October 2013 11:59 AM There are some people who have recently posted to Birding-Aus who would not believe John Young even if he presented a living specimen of the night parrot in a cage. To those people, I don’t care what you think, but I do care when you use this forum to denigrate the reputation of somebody who has spent 17,000 hours looking for and finding the night parrot. May I suggest you use your time more constructively in finding your own evidence rather than demanding that evidence should be presented to you. Regards Alastair Sent from my iPad =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) http://birding-aus.org =============================== —– No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG – http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3609/6743 – Release Date: 10/11/13 —– No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG – http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3609/6745 – Release Date: 10/12/13 =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) http://birding-aus.org =============================== =============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) http://birding-aus.org ===============================