Month: April 2014

Geoff, A shortcoming of birding-aus is that for reasons which remain unclear, it will not process long URL links, so the last section of long links is not highlighted. The only way I have found to get around this is to shorten the link through Tiny URl: http://tinyurl.com/. Process the long link through Tiny URL, then copy and paste the shorter version to your birding-aus post. Greg Roberts “Message: 4 From: “Geoffrey Allan Jones” <gjo48414@bigpond.net.au> To: <birding-aus@birding-aus.org> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Quail-thrush link again and Monarchs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”us-ascii” Evening Everyone I have been contacted privately to say that some of you are not getting all of the link to the Quail-thrush so I will send it again and also one for the family of Monarchs which also has a couple of species from PNG and the Solomons here are the 2 links in question http://www.barraimaging.com.au/BIRD-FAMILIES-OF-THE-WORLD/Whipbirds-Quail-th rushes/ for the Quail-thrush and http://www.barraimaging.com.au/BIRD-FAMILIES-OF-THE-WORLD/Monarchs/ This one for the Monarchs see how the links go as they seem to be OK on some sites but the links seem to miss letters at the end on others if you find the link does not work try just going to Barraimaging and click on Taxonomic and scroll down to that Family Regards Geoff Jones http://www.barraimaging.com.au/” _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org

Hi Rob, some comments and additions to your list of Herald Petrel records . 1.    Nov 1962 300km SE of Nowra (Federal waters):  See Norris (1965) Notornis 12: 80-105. 2.     Jan 1971 Burleigh Heads  Qld:  See Vernon & McKean (1972) Emu 72: 115 3.     18 May 1979, 30km E of Ballina: see Izzard & Watson (1980) Australian Birds 15: 5-6. 4.     May 1981 Lihou Reef  Qld Waters: See Stokes & Corben (1985) Corella9: 25-29 5.     May 1981 Wreck Reef  Qld Waters: See Stokes & Corben (1985) Corella9: 25-29 6.     30 October 1982 Sydney Pelagic (36km offshore): See McBride & Hobcroft (1984) Australian Birds 19: 53-5. 11.  29 August 2006, Christmas Island, Offshore territory, BARC. I’m sending the original BARC submission to Rob Also North Keeling Island ashore (prospecting?) in the Cocos (Keeling) Islands, April 1986: Stokes & Goh (1987) Australian Bird Watcher 12, 132–133  A couple of records from WA waters (Johnstone & Storr (1998) Handbook of Western Australian Birds, Volume I: Non-passerines. Western Australian Museum, Perth (but I don’t have the reference to hand at present. Amazingly, a bird found on Round Island in April 2006 had been banded on Raine Island, Queensland, in July 1984 (James & McAllan (in press) AFO 31: Suppl.      Cheers, David James Sydney ============================== _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org

About 40+ Swift Parrots feeding in flowering bloodwoods in forest both sides of Mirador Drive about 300 metres after turning in from Sapphire Coast Drive, just north of Merimbula, Far South Coast NSW. Excellent flowering this year so we hope they stay. Apparently Spotted Gum is flowering further north. Barbara Jones _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org

Dear Birders, we are looking for up to 9 people to fill a boat for day trip from Eagle Hawk Neck in Tasmania. Leaving at 7am on Friday 30th May, travel out to the Continental Shelf for bird watching. My understanding is there will be someone on board with knowledge of birds & we will get to see along the coastline. Date Friday 30th May Leave at 7am Return about 4pm BYO lunch & water, seasickness pills Tea, coffee provided if not too rough to boil the billy Cost $140 approx (Boat cost $1400 takes max 12 passengers, 3 places already gone) Please confirm early as we must confirm the boat by Mon 5 May many thanks Annie Marlow _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org

Hi everyone There is a new auction site where you can buy and sell, just like on eBay or Gumtree, with the exception that a percentage of proceeds must go to a nominated charity. It’s great to see Birdlife Australia up there in first spot as one of the first charities to benefit from this initiative. http://joynin.com/index.php I don’t know much more about it, and can’t endorse it for security or anything, as I just found out about it on a Facebook bird group. As far as I can work out, it’s free to advertise. If you sell, this is how the funds are split: 7% to joynin 10% – 93% to nominated charity Balance to seller If you’ve been trying to offload old copies of Wingspan, or Simpson & Day 4th edition, or the collection of Royal Doulton bird figurines your great-aunt left you in her will – this may be your chance. And you get to support Birdlife Australia while you’re at it. Must sell some old books to make way for all the fantastic new bird books coming our way – starting with Rohan and Tim’s new birdfinder very very soon … Russell Woodford Geelong VIC _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org

Hi All especially Melburnians, In an effort to keep my Bird-a-day alive for a couple of more days, until at least the 1st May, I am desperately seeking sites for a few birds in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne. The birds I’m after are: Black Swan Common Bronzewing Crested Shrike-tit Brown Falcon Yellow-rumped Thornbill Nankeen Kestrel Musk Duck Red-rumped Parrot Fairy Martin. I have sites for all of these but the sites aren’t necessarily reliable (80% +). Sites for other birds like Lyrebirds would be welcome. It’s days like these (pouring rain) that I need a quick, successful hit hence I need “reliable” sites. My last month of working up to 15 hours a day has meant that I have no easy targets left ( Mynahs, Blackbirds, Corellas, or common waterbirds left….) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards *Yours in all things* “*GREEN”* *John Harris BASc, GDipEd* *Croydon, Vic* * Director – Wildlife Experiences Pty LtdPrincipal Ecologist/Zoologist* *Nature Photographer* *Wildlife Guide* *wildlifeexperiences@gmail.com <wildlifeexperiences@gmail.com>* *0409090955* *President, Field Naturalists Club of Victoria* *(www.fncv.org.au )* _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org

Hi, I will be spending a week in the Coffs Hbr/Nambucca Hds area and have spare time on the 4th/8th May. If anyone in the area has some time to spare to show some birders around or have any info on good spots to bird, it would be appreciated. Thank you, Nev Capell _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org

The google problem might be a coincidence – is google working at all? Your computer could run slowly if the program is actually running in the background and has used up too much RAM, but it shouldn’t affect it if it’s not running. You might also have run out of disk space. Do things runs normally after restarting the computer if you don’t run the P&K program? Which version of Windows are you running? Peter Shute > —–Original Message—– > From: Birding-Aus > [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of > David Richardson > Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2014 2:15 PM > To: Carl Clifford > Cc: storm; Birding Aus > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Pizzey & Knight > > I recently won a copy of the PC digital version of Pizzey and > Knight and I installed it on my computer but now my computer > is running slow on a lot of things and also wont google a lot > of stuff. Its too much of a coincidence that things that > worked before I put this thing on my computer now don’t work. > Does anyone know of this problem? How do I fix it? Ive tried > finding how to get the thing back off my computer but cant > find how to. > > david Richardson > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Carl Clifford > <carlsclifford@gmail.com>wrote: > > > Russ, > > > > I was in the UK recently and I noticed some birders carting around > > both book and iPod/Pad. I did the same, taking my iPod > Touch, on which > > I had NatureGuides’ “Birds of Britain & Ireland”. I also took “The > > Crossley ID Guide”. I mostly used the Crossley guide, using > the iPad > > for back-up and calls. > > > > One disadvantage I found with the app, is that you can’t easily > > scribble notes on the pages. > > > > Carl Clifford > > > > > > > On 28 Apr 2014, at 14:50, Russell Woodford > <rdwoodford@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi David > > > My suggestion is to ask another birder to show you the > app on their > > phone next time you are at a twitch or birding in a group. > They should > > be able to give you an idea of what all the fuss is about! > > > > > > I find both Morecombe and Pizzey apps very useful for checking > > > calls, > > and for comparing details on birds in the field. Eg yesterday I was > > seeing a lot of lorikeets and needed to remind myself of the > > differences in tail shape and rump colour. The presence of several > > hybrids made it confusing, but having this info in my hand while > > walking around at least made it possible to speculate on > the parentage of most of them! > > > > > > Russell > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On 26 Apr 2014, at 6:05 pm, David Richardson > > >> <albatrossvaldez@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Thank-you everybody. If I hadn’t won the free cd of it I think I > > >> would carry on with my books and my calls on ipod. Infact, I can > > >> read my field guides in bed which I cant do with the > computer. And > > >> a book has lots of birds on each page and following > pages so I find > > >> it easier to look for a bird Im trying to identify.I > guess Im not > > >> used to how computers work > > and am > > >> more comfortable with a familiar field guide. I thought > I was going > > >> high tech when I bought an ipod 7 years ago and my neice put my > > >> BOCA calls > > on it. > > >> > > >> Thanks’ > > >> David > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:46 PM, storm > <storm.stanford@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> It depends on what kind of phone you buy. > > >>> > > >>> If you buy an iphone, no (assuming you do not have a > apple mac at > > home). > > >>> If you have a PC and buy an android then maybe. > > >>> > > >>> On the computer you have at the moment you can have the > internet, > > >>> the email and maybe an excel spreadsheet or word document all > > >>> open. You can move between the programs with the mouse. > > >>> > > >>> On a phone you pretty much need to close one program before you > > >>> open another. > > >>> > > >>> That you can hear bird calls when you doing other > things means you > > >>> have the Pizzey guide open. If you close the program, then the > > >>> sounds should stop. You might need to eject the cd from > the computer. > > >>> > > >>> good luck > > >>> > > >>> storm > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 26 April 2014 17:27, David Richardson > > >>> <albatrossvaldez@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I don’t understand a lot of that. I can only do one thing at a > > >>>> time > > on my > > >>>> computer. I turn it on and click on the e and it goes > to google. > > >>>> From there I use gmail and can get to birdline and > facebook and > > >>>> google things. > > That’s > > >>>> as far as my computer knowledge goes. I put the cd for > pizzey and > > knight > > >>>> into the slot on the computer and I now have a picture of a > > >>>> rosella > > next > > >>>> to > > >>>> the e that I can click on and it shows the pizzey and knight > > electronic > > >>>> version. I had to turn the speakers off because I keep hearing > > >>>> bird calls.Will the “PC “pizzey and knight I have work on an > > >>>> iphone or whatever they are if I get one? Or is it > only for the > > >>>> big computer at home > > and I > > >>>> will have to buy another one to use on a phone? > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> david Richardson > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, David Adams > <dpadams@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>> PS I don’t know what “Android “is apart from in > sci-fi movies. > > >>>>>> Im > > not > > >>>>>> being silly, I genuinely don’t understand the differences. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Fair enough. There’s now to summarize a big subject like this > > >>>>> one > > >>>> without > > >>>>> skipping something important or saying things that while > > approximately > > >>>> true > > >>>>> aren’t complete. Even still, I can offer you a sketch > that might > > help. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Android and iOS are the two dominant operating > systems out there > > >>>>> for > > >>>> smart > > >>>>> phones and tablets. For an end user, they’re more the > same than > > >>>> different. > > >>>>> Which one is better? Yes 😉 They have fans and detractors on > > >>>>> both > > >>>> sides, > > >>>>> such is how it goes. Both are geared towards small screens, > > >>>> conservation of > > >>>>> battery life, and nearly instantaneous startup. If > you know how > > >>>>> to > > use > > >>>> one, > > >>>>> you could easily figure out the other. Apps on > Android and iOS > > >>>>> often > > >>>> look > > >>>>> and behave very nearly identically. They are both > very different > > >>>>> from desktop computers of whatever sort you might be > using now. > > >>>>> Instead > > of a > > >>>>> mouse and keyboard and apps in different windows, you > generally > > >>>>> use > > one > > >>>> app > > >>>>> at a time on a small screen using your fingers. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Android is developed by Google and then more-or-less > given away > > >>>>> to > > phone > > >>>>> makers to include on their handsets. The dominant Android > > >>>>> smartphone > > >>>> maker > > >>>>> is Samsung…but there are dozens of others. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> iOS is developed by Apple and used exclusively on > their hardware: > > >>>> iPhone, > > >>>>> iPod Touch (iPhone without a phone), and iPad. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Apple and Samsung have been in a court battle for > years that you > > >>>>> may > > >>>> have > > >>>>> seen in the headlines. It’s pretty much about Apple > suing Google > > >>>>> by > > >>>> proxy > > >>>>> for cloning the iPhone. None of that matters much to > us as users. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You can buy a cheap Android phone at Woolies or Coles > for $40-80 > > >>>>> on > > sale > > >>>>> but it probably won’t have the memory to run the > Pizzey app…or > > >>>>> most > > >>>> any > > >>>>> serious birding app. Apple doesn’t make low-end > devices but, in > > >>>>> many markets, completely owns the high-end. (High end > laptops? > > >>>>> They own > > it. > > >>>> High > > >>>>> end phones? They share it.) If you’re in the price range of > > >>>>> Apple’s products, their kit is competitively priced with > > >>>>> comparable gear. If > > you > > >>>>> want something cheaper, they just don’t do that. I’ve got a > > >>>>> couple of Android phones (love them), an old iPod > Touch (works > > >>>>> great, even > > years > > >>>>> later), and the new iPad Mini. I have to say, the Mini is the > > greatest > > >>>>> gadget in the history of gadgets, so far as I can > tell. With a > > >>>>> sturdy > > >>>> case, > > >>>>> it can go in my bag and I’ve got thousands of pages > of birding > > >>>>> info, > > >>>> sounds > > >>>>> and pictures from around the world. Magic. Oh, none of these > > >>>>> devices > > are > > >>>>> easy to read in bright light. So, books and pads of > paper still > > >>>>> have > > >>>> their > > >>>>> place, to be sure. (I prefer paper guides for areas I > don’t know > > >>>>> as I > > >>>> flip > > >>>>> through the pages a lot.) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> To buy apps for either platform, you go through a > store. In the > > >>>>> case > > of > > >>>>> iOS, it’s Apple’s iTunes App Store. For Android, > you’ve got choices. > > The > > >>>>> biggest and most trusted is Google’s Play store. Many > apps are free. > > >>>> When > > >>>>> you buy an app, it’s usually licensed for one account on > > >>>>> multiple > > >>>> devices. > > >>>>> So, if you have a tablet and a phone you can often > buy one copy > > >>>>> of > > the > > >>>> app > > >>>>> and legally use it on your two devices. With Apple, > the license > > >>>>> is > > >>>> always > > >>>>> for 5 devices, so far as I know. For Android, it > depends a bit. > > >>>>> If > > you > > >>>> buy > > >>>>> an Android version you don’t get a license for iOS or > the other > > >>>>> way > > >>>> around. > > >>>>> Just like buying Office for Windows doesn’t let you > run Office > > >>>>> for > > Mac. > > >>>>> Different OS, different license. And, yes, Microsoft > does make a > > phone > > >>>>> operating system and just finished buying Nokia something like > > >>>> yesterday. > > >>>>> Windows Phone isn’t Windows, is getting increasingly positive > > >>>> reviews…and > > >>>>> has a trivial market share for now. So, you don’t see so many > > >>>>> apps > > for > > >>>>> that. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Colin R asked: “why is it cheaper for androids?” > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Probably because Android users are, as a market, far, > far, far > > >>>>> less inclined to spend money on apps. I assume that > Guy Gibbons > > >>>>> is > > >>>> attempting to > > >>>>> get the best price he can for his efforts, and fair enough. > > >>>>> Also, if > > the > > >>>>> Android version is licensed for two devices and the > iOS one for > > >>>> five…some > > >>>>> people will find it cheaper on iOS. Birding apps as a > category > > >>>>> are > > some > > >>>> of > > >>>>> the more expensive apps I’ve seen on either platform. > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Birding-Aus mailing list > > >>>>> Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org > > >>>>> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > > >>>>> > http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus. > > >>>>> org > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Birding-Aus mailing list > > >>>> Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org > > >>>> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > > >>>> > http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.o > > >>>> rg > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Birding-Aus mailing list > > >> Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org > > >> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > > >> > http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Birding-Aus mailing list > > > Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org > > > To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > > > > http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Birding-Aus mailing list > Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org > To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org > _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org

I recently won a copy of the PC digital version of Pizzey and Knight and I installed it on my computer but now my computer is running slow on a lot of things and also wont google a lot of stuff. Its too much of a coincidence that things that worked before I put this thing on my computer now don’t work. Does anyone know of this problem? How do I fix it? Ive tried finding how to get the thing back off my computer but cant find how to. david Richardson On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Carl Clifford <carlsclifford@gmail.com>wrote: > Russ, > > I was in the UK recently and I noticed some birders carting around both > book and iPod/Pad. I did the same, taking my iPod Touch, on which I had > NatureGuides’ “Birds of Britain & Ireland”. I also took “The Crossley ID > Guide”. I mostly used the Crossley guide, using the iPad for back-up and > calls. > > One disadvantage I found with the app, is that you can’t easily scribble > notes on the pages. > > Carl Clifford > > > > On 28 Apr 2014, at 14:50, Russell Woodford <rdwoodford@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi David > > My suggestion is to ask another birder to show you the app on their > phone next time you are at a twitch or birding in a group. They should be > able to give you an idea of what all the fuss is about! > > > > I find both Morecombe and Pizzey apps very useful for checking calls, > and for comparing details on birds in the field. Eg yesterday I was seeing > a lot of lorikeets and needed to remind myself of the differences in tail > shape and rump colour. The presence of several hybrids made it confusing, > but having this info in my hand while walking around at least made it > possible to speculate on the parentage of most of them! > > > > Russell > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 26 Apr 2014, at 6:05 pm, David Richardson <albatrossvaldez@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> > >> Thank-you everybody. If I hadn’t won the free cd of it I think I would > >> carry on with my books and my calls on ipod. Infact, I can read my field > >> guides in bed which I cant do with the computer. And a book has lots of > >> birds on each page and following pages so I find it easier to look for a > >> bird Im trying to identify.I guess Im not used to how computers work > and am > >> more comfortable with a familiar field guide. I thought I was going high > >> tech when I bought an ipod 7 years ago and my neice put my BOCA calls > on it. > >> > >> Thanks’ > >> David > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:46 PM, storm <storm.stanford@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> It depends on what kind of phone you buy. > >>> > >>> If you buy an iphone, no (assuming you do not have a apple mac at > home). > >>> If you have a PC and buy an android then maybe. > >>> > >>> On the computer you have at the moment you can have the internet, the > >>> email and maybe an excel spreadsheet or word document all open. You can > >>> move between the programs with the mouse. > >>> > >>> On a phone you pretty much need to close one program before you open > >>> another. > >>> > >>> That you can hear bird calls when you doing other things means you have > >>> the Pizzey guide open. If you close the program, then the sounds should > >>> stop. You might need to eject the cd from the computer. > >>> > >>> good luck > >>> > >>> storm > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 26 April 2014 17:27, David Richardson <albatrossvaldez@gmail.com > >wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don’t understand a lot of that. I can only do one thing at a time > on my > >>>> computer. I turn it on and click on the e and it goes to google. From > >>>> there > >>>> I use gmail and can get to birdline and facebook and google things. > That’s > >>>> as far as my computer knowledge goes. I put the cd for pizzey and > knight > >>>> into the slot on the computer and I now have a picture of a rosella > next > >>>> to > >>>> the e that I can click on and it shows the pizzey and knight > electronic > >>>> version. I had to turn the speakers off because I keep hearing bird > >>>> calls.Will the “PC “pizzey and knight I have work on an iphone or > >>>> whatever > >>>> they are if I get one? Or is it only for the big computer at home > and I > >>>> will have to buy another one to use on a phone? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> david Richardson > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, David Adams <dpadams@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> PS I don’t know what “Android “is apart from in sci-fi movies. Im > not > >>>>>> being silly, I genuinely don’t understand the differences. > >>>>> > >>>>> Fair enough. There’s now to summarize a big subject like this one > >>>> without > >>>>> skipping something important or saying things that while > approximately > >>>> true > >>>>> aren’t complete. Even still, I can offer you a sketch that might > help. > >>>>> > >>>>> Android and iOS are the two dominant operating systems out there for > >>>> smart > >>>>> phones and tablets. For an end user, they’re more the same than > >>>> different. > >>>>> Which one is better? Yes 😉 They have fans and detractors on both > >>>> sides, > >>>>> such is how it goes. Both are geared towards small screens, > >>>> conservation of > >>>>> battery life, and nearly instantaneous startup. If you know how to > use > >>>> one, > >>>>> you could easily figure out the other. Apps on Android and iOS often > >>>> look > >>>>> and behave very nearly identically. They are both very different from > >>>>> desktop computers of whatever sort you might be using now. Instead > of a > >>>>> mouse and keyboard and apps in different windows, you generally use > one > >>>> app > >>>>> at a time on a small screen using your fingers. > >>>>> > >>>>> Android is developed by Google and then more-or-less given away to > phone > >>>>> makers to include on their handsets. The dominant Android smartphone > >>>> maker > >>>>> is Samsung…but there are dozens of others. > >>>>> > >>>>> iOS is developed by Apple and used exclusively on their hardware: > >>>> iPhone, > >>>>> iPod Touch (iPhone without a phone), and iPad. > >>>>> > >>>>> Apple and Samsung have been in a court battle for years that you may > >>>> have > >>>>> seen in the headlines. It’s pretty much about Apple suing Google by > >>>> proxy > >>>>> for cloning the iPhone. None of that matters much to us as users. > >>>>> > >>>>> You can buy a cheap Android phone at Woolies or Coles for $40-80 on > sale > >>>>> but it probably won’t have the memory to run the Pizzey app…or most > >>>> any > >>>>> serious birding app. Apple doesn’t make low-end devices but, in many > >>>>> markets, completely owns the high-end. (High end laptops? They own > it. > >>>> High > >>>>> end phones? They share it.) If you’re in the price range of Apple’s > >>>>> products, their kit is competitively priced with comparable gear. If > you > >>>>> want something cheaper, they just don’t do that. I’ve got a couple of > >>>>> Android phones (love them), an old iPod Touch (works great, even > years > >>>>> later), and the new iPad Mini. I have to say, the Mini is the > greatest > >>>>> gadget in the history of gadgets, so far as I can tell. With a sturdy > >>>> case, > >>>>> it can go in my bag and I’ve got thousands of pages of birding info, > >>>> sounds > >>>>> and pictures from around the world. Magic. Oh, none of these devices > are > >>>>> easy to read in bright light. So, books and pads of paper still have > >>>> their > >>>>> place, to be sure. (I prefer paper guides for areas I don’t know as I > >>>> flip > >>>>> through the pages a lot.) > >>>>> > >>>>> To buy apps for either platform, you go through a store. In the case > of > >>>>> iOS, it’s Apple’s iTunes App Store. For Android, you’ve got choices. > The > >>>>> biggest and most trusted is Google’s Play store. Many apps are free. > >>>> When > >>>>> you buy an app, it’s usually licensed for one account on multiple > >>>> devices. > >>>>> So, if you have a tablet and a phone you can often buy one copy of > the > >>>> app > >>>>> and legally use it on your two devices. With Apple, the license is > >>>> always > >>>>> for 5 devices, so far as I know. For Android, it depends a bit. If > you > >>>> buy > >>>>> an Android version you don’t get a license for iOS or the other way > >>>> around. > >>>>> Just like buying Office for Windows doesn’t let you run Office for > Mac. > >>>>> Different OS, different license. And, yes, Microsoft does make a > phone > >>>>> operating system and just finished buying Nokia something like > >>>> yesterday. > >>>>> Windows Phone isn’t Windows, is getting increasingly positive > >>>> reviews…and > >>>>> has a trivial market share for now. So, you don’t see so many apps > for > >>>>> that. > >>>>> > >>>>> Colin R asked: “why is it cheaper for androids?” > >>>>> > >>>>> Probably because Android users are, as a market, far, far, far less > >>>>> inclined to spend money on apps. I assume that Guy Gibbons is > >>>> attempting to > >>>>> get the best price he can for his efforts, and fair enough. Also, if > the > >>>>> Android version is licensed for two devices and the iOS one for > >>>> five…some > >>>>> people will find it cheaper on iOS. 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Russ, I was in the UK recently and I noticed some birders carting around both book and iPod/Pad. I did the same, taking my iPod Touch, on which I had NatureGuides’ “Birds of Britain & Ireland”. I also took “The Crossley ID Guide”. I mostly used the Crossley guide, using the iPad for back-up and calls. One disadvantage I found with the app, is that you can’t easily scribble notes on the pages. Carl Clifford > On 28 Apr 2014, at 14:50, Russell Woodford <rdwoodford@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi David > My suggestion is to ask another birder to show you the app on their phone next time you are at a twitch or birding in a group. They should be able to give you an idea of what all the fuss is about! > > I find both Morecombe and Pizzey apps very useful for checking calls, and for comparing details on birds in the field. Eg yesterday I was seeing a lot of lorikeets and needed to remind myself of the differences in tail shape and rump colour. The presence of several hybrids made it confusing, but having this info in my hand while walking around at least made it possible to speculate on the parentage of most of them! > > Russell > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 26 Apr 2014, at 6:05 pm, David Richardson <albatrossvaldez@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> Thank-you everybody. If I hadn’t won the free cd of it I think I would >> carry on with my books and my calls on ipod. Infact, I can read my field >> guides in bed which I cant do with the computer. And a book has lots of >> birds on each page and following pages so I find it easier to look for a >> bird Im trying to identify.I guess Im not used to how computers work and am >> more comfortable with a familiar field guide. I thought I was going high >> tech when I bought an ipod 7 years ago and my neice put my BOCA calls on it. >> >> Thanks’ >> David >> >> >> >> >>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:46 PM, storm <storm.stanford@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> It depends on what kind of phone you buy. >>> >>> If you buy an iphone, no (assuming you do not have a apple mac at home). >>> If you have a PC and buy an android then maybe. >>> >>> On the computer you have at the moment you can have the internet, the >>> email and maybe an excel spreadsheet or word document all open. You can >>> move between the programs with the mouse. >>> >>> On a phone you pretty much need to close one program before you open >>> another. >>> >>> That you can hear bird calls when you doing other things means you have >>> the Pizzey guide open. If you close the program, then the sounds should >>> stop. You might need to eject the cd from the computer. >>> >>> good luck >>> >>> storm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 26 April 2014 17:27, David Richardson <albatrossvaldez@gmail.com >wrote: >>> >>>> I don’t understand a lot of that. I can only do one thing at a time on my >>>> computer. I turn it on and click on the e and it goes to google. From >>>> there >>>> I use gmail and can get to birdline and facebook and google things. That’s >>>> as far as my computer knowledge goes. I put the cd for pizzey and knight >>>> into the slot on the computer and I now have a picture of a rosella next >>>> to >>>> the e that I can click on and it shows the pizzey and knight electronic >>>> version. I had to turn the speakers off because I keep hearing bird >>>> calls.Will the “PC “pizzey and knight I have work on an iphone or >>>> whatever >>>> they are if I get one? Or is it only for the big computer at home and I >>>> will have to buy another one to use on a phone? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> david Richardson >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, David Adams <dpadams@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> PS I don’t know what “Android “is apart from in sci-fi movies. Im not >>>>>> being silly, I genuinely don’t understand the differences. >>>>> >>>>> Fair enough. There’s now to summarize a big subject like this one >>>> without >>>>> skipping something important or saying things that while approximately >>>> true >>>>> aren’t complete. Even still, I can offer you a sketch that might help. >>>>> >>>>> Android and iOS are the two dominant operating systems out there for >>>> smart >>>>> phones and tablets. For an end user, they’re more the same than >>>> different. >>>>> Which one is better? Yes 😉 They have fans and detractors on both >>>> sides, >>>>> such is how it goes. Both are geared towards small screens, >>>> conservation of >>>>> battery life, and nearly instantaneous startup. If you know how to use >>>> one, >>>>> you could easily figure out the other. Apps on Android and iOS often >>>> look >>>>> and behave very nearly identically. They are both very different from >>>>> desktop computers of whatever sort you might be using now. Instead of a >>>>> mouse and keyboard and apps in different windows, you generally use one >>>> app >>>>> at a time on a small screen using your fingers. >>>>> >>>>> Android is developed by Google and then more-or-less given away to phone >>>>> makers to include on their handsets. The dominant Android smartphone >>>> maker >>>>> is Samsung…but there are dozens of others. >>>>> >>>>> iOS is developed by Apple and used exclusively on their hardware: >>>> iPhone, >>>>> iPod Touch (iPhone without a phone), and iPad. >>>>> >>>>> Apple and Samsung have been in a court battle for years that you may >>>> have >>>>> seen in the headlines. It’s pretty much about Apple suing Google by >>>> proxy >>>>> for cloning the iPhone. None of that matters much to us as users. >>>>> >>>>> You can buy a cheap Android phone at Woolies or Coles for $40-80 on sale >>>>> but it probably won’t have the memory to run the Pizzey app…or most >>>> any >>>>> serious birding app. Apple doesn’t make low-end devices but, in many >>>>> markets, completely owns the high-end. (High end laptops? They own it. >>>> High >>>>> end phones? They share it.) If you’re in the price range of Apple’s >>>>> products, their kit is competitively priced with comparable gear. If you >>>>> want something cheaper, they just don’t do that. I’ve got a couple of >>>>> Android phones (love them), an old iPod Touch (works great, even years >>>>> later), and the new iPad Mini. I have to say, the Mini is the greatest >>>>> gadget in the history of gadgets, so far as I can tell. With a sturdy >>>> case, >>>>> it can go in my bag and I’ve got thousands of pages of birding info, >>>> sounds >>>>> and pictures from around the world. Magic. Oh, none of these devices are >>>>> easy to read in bright light. So, books and pads of paper still have >>>> their >>>>> place, to be sure. (I prefer paper guides for areas I don’t know as I >>>> flip >>>>> through the pages a lot.) >>>>> >>>>> To buy apps for either platform, you go through a store. In the case of >>>>> iOS, it’s Apple’s iTunes App Store. For Android, you’ve got choices. The >>>>> biggest and most trusted is Google’s Play store. Many apps are free. >>>> When >>>>> you buy an app, it’s usually licensed for one account on multiple >>>> devices. >>>>> So, if you have a tablet and a phone you can often buy one copy of the >>>> app >>>>> and legally use it on your two devices. With Apple, the license is >>>> always >>>>> for 5 devices, so far as I know. For Android, it depends a bit. If you >>>> buy >>>>> an Android version you don’t get a license for iOS or the other way >>>> around. >>>>> Just like buying Office for Windows doesn’t let you run Office for Mac. >>>>> Different OS, different license. And, yes, Microsoft does make a phone >>>>> operating system and just finished buying Nokia something like >>>> yesterday. >>>>> Windows Phone isn’t Windows, is getting increasingly positive >>>> reviews…and >>>>> has a trivial market share for now. So, you don’t see so many apps for >>>>> that. >>>>> >>>>> Colin R asked: “why is it cheaper for androids?” >>>>> >>>>> Probably because Android users are, as a market, far, far, far less >>>>> inclined to spend money on apps. I assume that Guy Gibbons is >>>> attempting to >>>>> get the best price he can for his efforts, and fair enough. Also, if the >>>>> Android version is licensed for two devices and the iOS one for >>>> five…some >>>>> people will find it cheaper on iOS. Birding apps as a category are some >>>> of >>>>> the more expensive apps I’ve seen on either platform. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Birding-Aus mailing list >>>>> Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org >>>>> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: >>>>> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Birding-Aus mailing list >>>> Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org >>>> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: >>>> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Birding-Aus mailing list >> Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org >> To change settings or unsubscribe visit: >> http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org > > _______________________________________________ > Birding-Aus mailing list > Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org > To change settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org