FW: FW: RFI status of Lesser Sand Plover C. m. atrifrons

Hi Joseph, I recall that some days ago you asked re the status of the subspecies atrifrons of Lesser Sand Plover in Australia. As I had no idea I forwarded the question to Danny Rogers whose reply is below. Hope this helps. Thank you very much for your help with the identification of our Long-billed Dowitcher. Cheers, Mike Carter, 03 9787 7136 30 Canadian Bay Road Mount Eliza, VIC 3930, Australia —–Original Message—– From: Danny Rogers [mailto:drogers@melbpc.org.au] Sent: Sunday, 23 November 2014 1:43 PM To: Mike Carter; Adrian Boyle; George Swann of Kimberley Birdwatching Subject: Re: FW: [Birding-Aus] RFI status of Lesser Sand Plover C. m. atrifrons Hi Mike, Sorry about the slow and hasty reply. I haven’t been able to find any satisfactory records of any atrifrons group Lesser Sand Plovers in Australia, and have never seen one myself – I’ve only seen mongolus and probable stegmanni. There are a few published claims in early Stilts and I think elsewhere, but when I reviewed them for HANZAB, none of them stood up – they were all based on incorrect perceptions about forehead pattern. Cheers, Danny On 16/11/2014 4:11 PM, Mike Carter wrote: > Can you help with this? > > Cheers, > > Mike Carter, 03 9787 7136 > 30 Canadian Bay Road > Mount Eliza, VIC 3930, Australia > —–Original Message—– > From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org] On > Behalf Of Joseph Morlan > Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2014 5:03 AM > To: Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org > Subject: [Birding-Aus] RFI status of Lesser Sand Plover C. m. > atrifrons > > Has there been any progress establishing the true status and > distribution of C. m. atrifrons in Australia since the account > published in HANZAB? The latest Clements & IOC checklists indicates > atrifrons winters no closer to Australia than Sumatra and the Greater Sundas. > > However Pizzy & Knight digital edition include both C. m. mongolus and C. > m. atrifons (sic), but supply no details on status. Also the > illustrations of the two forms in non-breeding plumage seem to be > reversed with atrifons > (sic) shown having a white forehead and mongolus with a dark forehead. > Are the P&K plates backwards? > > Thanks in advance. > — > Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA


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