Birding-Aus Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4

By Birding-Aus, on August 8th, 2018

Do Queensland Councils actually Have Environmental Officers in their employ?
Is the Queensland Government actually Pro-active in protecting its natural
environment and wildlife?
I have also submitted an online complaint rearding this bulldozing incident

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> 1. Winton, Qld (Brian & Meg)
> 2. Bengal Florican Rescued (Burnice Starkey)
> 3. Bengal Florican Rescued (Burnice Starkey)
> 4. Re: Winton, Qld (Martin Butterfield)
> 5. Re: Winton, Qld (Denise Goodfellow)
> 6. Re: Winton, Qld (Martin Butterfield)
> 7. Re: Winton, Qld (Greg and Val Clancy)
> 8. Re: Winton, Qld (Martin Butterfield)
> 9. Re: Winton, Qld (Denise Goodfellow)
> 10. Re: Winton, Qld (Susie Duncan)
> 11. Re: Winton, Qld (Richard Nowotny)
> 12. Re: Winton, Qld (Graeme Stevens)
> 13. Re: Winton, Qld (Alan Gillanders)
> 14. Re: Winton, Qld (Greg and Val Clancy)
> 15. Re: Winton, Qld (Charles)
> 16. Re: Winton, Qld (Falk Wicker)
> 17. Re: Winton, Qld (Denise Goodfellow)
> 18. Re: Winton, Qld (martin cachard)
> 19. Re: Winton, Qld (martin cachard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 18:26:12 +1000
> From: “Brian & Meg” < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>
> To: < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and began
> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some of
> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but we
> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> to find somewhere to shelter.
> Brian Johnson
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 21:47:37 +0000
> From: Burnice Starkey < burnicestarkey@hotmail.com>
> To: Birding-Aus < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Bengal Florican Rescued
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> When visiting Cambodia I hired a local guide and was rewarded with 9
> Lifers in a couple of hours.
> The organisation is Cambodia Bird Guide Association (CBGA). They have
> recently issued their first newsletter.x-thread://196668232/
>
> They wrote:
>
> We are excited to share a happy news that our critically endangered Bengal
> Florican that we rescued earlier in June is now well in its own habitat. It
> has been released after one-month treatment by the expert team from ACCB.
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> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 21:47:44 +0000
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 08:17:48 +1000
> From: Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>
> To: “Brian & Meg” < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>
> Cc: birding-aus NEW < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Any idea why they did that, other than “the bulldozer was just sitting
> there costing ratepayers money”? Presumably the rushes will contribute to
> preserving the climate by being set alight.
>
> Martin Butterfield
> franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> > will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began
> > using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some of
> > the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> > the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> > did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> > to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> >

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> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 07:54:39 +0930
> From: Denise Goodfellow < goodfellow@bigpond.com.au>
> To: Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>
> Cc: Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>, birding-aus
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> One more tourist attraction removed by the sounds of it.
>
> Denise
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>
> On 7 Aug 2018, at 7:47 am, Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Any idea why they did that, other than “the bulldozer was just sitting
> > there costing ratepayers money”? Presumably the rushes will contribute
> to
> > preserving the climate by being set alight.
> >
> > Martin Butterfield
> > franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> >
> > On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> >> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began
> >> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> of
> >> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> >> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> >> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> >> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> >> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> >> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >> Brian Johnson
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> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:47:46 +1000
> From: “Greg and Val Clancy” < gclancy@tpg.com.au>
> To: “Martin Butterfield” < martinflab@gmail.com>, “Brian & Meg”
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> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> and
> a Baillon’s Crake. The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes. The
> place
> was alive with birds. This is outrageous and I have ‘phoned Winton Shire
> Council. I am waiting for a response from the person in charge. When I
> get
> a name I will post it and others could then also ‘phone and protest,
> unless
> of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
>
> Greg Clancy
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> —–Original Message—–
> From: Martin Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> To: Brian & Meg
> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Any idea why they did that, other than “the bulldozer was just sitting
> there costing ratepayers money”? Presumably the rushes will contribute to
> preserving the climate by being set alight.
>
> Martin Butterfield
> franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> > will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > began
> > using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some of
> > the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> > the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> > did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> > to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:12:35 +1000
> From: Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>
> To: Greg and Val Clancy < gclancy@tpg.com.au>
> Cc: “Brian & Meg” < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>, birding-aus NEW
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Pending Greg’s update perhaps people could call the number listed on the
> website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
>
> Martin Butterfield
> franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy < gclancy@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> > We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> > and a Baillon’s Crake. The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.
> The
> > place was alive with birds. This is outrageous and I have ‘phoned Winton
> > Shire Council. I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> > When I get a name I will post it and others could then also ‘phone and
> > protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> >
> > Greg Clancy
> >
> > —–Original Message—– From: Martin Butterfield
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> > To: Brian & Meg
> > Cc: birding-aus NEW
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >
> >
> > Any idea why they did that, other than “the bulldozer was just sitting
> > there costing ratepayers money”? Presumably the rushes will contribute
> to
> > preserving the climate by being set alight.
> >
> > Martin Butterfield
> > franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> >
> > On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> >> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> >> began
> >> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> of
> >> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> >> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up along
> >> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> >> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> >> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> >> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >> Brian Johnson
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:15:47 +0930
> From: Denise Goodfellow < goodfellow@bigpond.com.au>
> To: Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>
> Cc: Greg < gclancy@tpg.com.au>, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>,
> birding-aus < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> I?ve just filled in a complaints form with the following:
>
> I understand that most of the bullrushes have been removed from the Winton
> Sewage Treatment Ponds. These, according to my contacts, were a prime spot
> for birdwatchers to find hard-to-see crakes and grass birds. In case you
> think birdwatching is a small market – there are about 50 million in the
> USA alone (the subject of my PhD) and after the Americas Australia is the
> place they most want to visit. You’ve just given them a reason not to
> visit Winton.
>
> Denise
>
> On 7 Aug 2018, at 11:42 am, Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Pending Greg’s update perhaps people could call the number listed on the
> > website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
> >
> > Martin Butterfield
> > franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> >
> > On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy < gclancy@tpg.com.au>
> wrote:
> >
> >> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> >> and a Baillon’s Crake. The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.
> The
> >> place was alive with birds. This is outrageous and I have ‘phoned
> Winton
> >> Shire Council. I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> >> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also ‘phone and
> >> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> >>
> >> Greg Clancy
> >>
> >> —–Original Message—– From: Martin Butterfield
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> >> To: Brian & Meg
> >> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >>
> >>
> >> Any idea why they did that, other than “the bulldozer was just sitting
> >> there costing ratepayers money”? Presumably the rushes will contribute
> to
> >> preserving the climate by being set alight.
> >>
> >> Martin Butterfield
> >> franmart.blogspot.com.au/
> >>
> >> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> >>> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> >>> began
> >>> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around some
> of
> >>> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> >>> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along
> >>> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> >>> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out
> but we
> >>> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> >>> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >>> Brian Johnson
> >>>

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> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:52:17 +1000
> From: “Susie Duncan” < wilderness@hotkey.net.au>
> To: “‘Greg and Val Clancy'” < gclancy@tpg.com.au>, “‘Martin
> Butterfield'” < martinflab@gmail.com>, “‘Brian & Meg'”
> < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Good work Greg. IT’s important for local government to acknowledge that
> they have done damage to both the environment and their local tourism
> economy.
>
> Susie Duncan
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Birding-Aus < birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org> On Behalf Of Greg
> and Val Clancy
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 11:48 AM
> To: Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>; Brian & Meg <> brianandmeg@bigpond.com>
> Cc: birding-aus NEW < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted Crake
> and a Baillon’s Crake. The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes. The
> place was alive with birds. This is outrageous and I have ‘phoned Winton
> Shire Council. I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also ‘phone and
> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
>
> Greg Clancy
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Martin Butterfield
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> To: Brian & Meg
> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Any idea why they did that, other than “the bulldozer was just sitting
> there costing ratepayers money”? Presumably the rushes will contribute to
> preserving the climate by being set alight.
>
> Martin Butterfield
> franmart.blogspot.com.au/
>
> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> > you will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in
> > and began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes
> > around some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive
> > with birds. This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the
> > bullrushes piled up along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously,
> > this debris will need to be removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the
> > birds had already moved out but we did manage to see a few of the
> > crakes and grassbirds that were struggling to find somewhere to
> > shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> >

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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 16:48:46 +1000
> From: Alan Gillanders < alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au>
> To: birding-aus@birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Greetings,
>
> I’ve sent a questioning email also.
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> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but we
> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> >

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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 20:03:21 +1000
> From: “Greg and Val Clancy” < gclancy@tpg.com.au>
> To: < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>, “Alan Gillanders”
> < alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> I had to go to a meeting all afternoon so couldn’t follow up with Winton
> Council. I did not get a call from Phil Krisansky, Director of Works, as
> promised. I will call him tomorrow. Others could do the same.
>
> Greg Clancy
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Alan Gillanders
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:48 PM
> To: birding-aus@birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Greetings,
>
> I’ve sent a questioning email also.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> > will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> > some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> > This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> > along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to
> be
> > removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> > did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> > to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 20:09:08 +1000
> From: Charles < ccgfh@yahoo.com.au>
> To: Greg and Val Clancy < gclancy@tpg.com.au>
> Cc: birding-aus@birding-aus.org, Alan Gillanders
> < alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Any photos of the destruction?
>
> Warm Regards,
> Charles Hunter
> +61 402 907 577
>
> > On 7 Aug 2018, at 8:03 pm, Greg and Val Clancy < gclancy@tpg.com.au>
> wrote:
> >
> > I had to go to a meeting all afternoon so couldn’t follow up with Winton
> Council. I did not get a call from Phil Krisansky, Director of Works, as
> promised. I will call him tomorrow. Others could do the same.
> >
> > Greg Clancy
> >
> > —–Original Message—– From: Alan Gillanders
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:48 PM
> > To: birding-aus@birding-aus.org
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I’ve sent a questioning email also.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but we
> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> to find somewhere to shelter.
> >> Brian Johnson
> >>

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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 16:36:14 +1000
> From: Falk Wicker < falk.wicker@gmail.com>
> To: Graeme Stevens < gestev45@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Denise Goodfellow < goodfellow@bigpond.com.au>, Martin Butterfield
> < martinflab@gmail.com>, “Brian & Meg” < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>,
> birding-aus < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Thanks for forwarding the contact details of the tourism officer, Graeme!
> I just sent him an email as well, stating my disappointment.
>
> Falk
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Graeme Stevens < gestev45@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > There’s an email address on the Council’s website for their Tourism
> > Officer JohnE@winton.qld.gov.au
> >
> >
> > He just received the benefit of my opinion!
> >
> >
> > Graeme Stevens
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Birding-Aus < birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org> on behalf of
> > Denise Goodfellow < goodfellow@bigpond.com.au>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:45 PM
> > To: Martin Butterfield
> > Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >
> > I?ve just filled in a complaints form with the following:
> >
> > I understand that most of the bullrushes have been removed from the
> Winton
> > Sewage Treatment Ponds. These, according to my contacts, were a prime
> spot
> > for birdwatchers to find hard-to-see crakes and grass birds. In case
> you
> > think birdwatching is a small market – there are about 50 million in the
> > USA alone (the subject of my PhD) and after the Americas Australia is the
> > place they most want to visit. You’ve just given them a reason not to
> > visit Winton.
> >
> > Denise
> >
> > On 7 Aug 2018, at 11:42 am, Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Pending Greg’s update perhaps people could call the number listed on
> the
> > > website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
> > >
> > > Martin Butterfield
> > > nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
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> > > On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy < gclancy@tpg.com.au>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted
> Crake
> > >> and a Baillon’s Crake. The others heard a number of Spotless Crakes.
> > The
> > >> place was alive with birds. This is outrageous and I have ‘phoned
> > Winton
> > >> Shire Council. I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> > >> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also ‘phone and
> > >> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> > >>
> > >> Greg Clancy
> > >>
> > >> —–Original Message—– From: Martin Butterfield
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> > >> To: Brian & Meg
> > >> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> > >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Any idea why they did that, other than “the bulldozer was just sitting
> > >> there costing ratepayers money”? Presumably the rushes will
> contribute
> > to
> > >> preserving the climate by being set alight.
> > >>
> > >> Martin Butterfield
> > >> nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
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> > 2Fac6RtyMMv5pfnh9d86a%2BfwoFX1IpaR8%3D&reserved=0
> > >>
> > >> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> > you
> > >>> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > >>> began
> > >>> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some
> > of
> > >>> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > >>> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> > along
> > >>> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > >>> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out
> > but we
> > >>> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> > struggling
> > >>> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > >>> Brian Johnson
> > >>>

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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 12:43:28 +0930
> From: Denise Goodfellow < goodfellow@bigpond.com.au>
> To: Graeme Stevens < gestev45@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>, Brian & Meg
> < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>, birding-aus <> birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Good work!
>
> Denise
> On 7 Aug 2018, at 12:26 pm, Graeme Stevens < gestev45@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There’s an email address on the Council’s website for their Tourism
> Officer JohnE@winton.qld.gov.au
> >
> > He just received the benefit of my opinion!
> >
> > Graeme Stevens
> >
> > From: Birding-Aus < birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org> on behalf of
> Denise Goodfellow < goodfellow@bigpond.com.au>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 12:45 PM
> > To: Martin Butterfield
> > Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> >
> > I?ve just filled in a complaints form with the following:
> >
> > I understand that most of the bullrushes have been removed from the
> Winton Sewage Treatment Ponds. These, according to my contacts, were a
> prime spot for birdwatchers to find hard-to-see crakes and grass birds.
> In case you think birdwatching is a small market – there are about 50
> million in the USA alone (the subject of my PhD) and after the Americas
> Australia is the place they most want to visit. You’ve just given them a
> reason not to visit Winton.
> >
> > Denise
> >
> > On 7 Aug 2018, at 11:42 am, Martin Butterfield < martinflab@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Pending Greg’s update perhaps people could call the number listed on
> the
> > > website as shown in my post: (07) 4657 2666.!
> > >
> > > Martin Butterfield
> > >
> nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffranmart.blogspot.com.au%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6366920719300405…
> > >
> > > On 7 August 2018 at 11:47, Greg and Val Clancy < gclancy@tpg.com.au>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> We were there last week and I photographed the Australian Spotted
> Crake
> > >> and a Baillon’s Crake. The others heard a number of Spotless
> Crakes. The
> > >> place was alive with birds. This is outrageous and I have ‘phoned
> Winton
> > >> Shire Council. I am waiting for a response from the person in charge.
> > >> When I get a name I will post it and others could then also ‘phone and
> > >> protest, unless of course there is a very valid reason, which I doubt.
> > >>
> > >> Greg Clancy
> > >>
> > >> —–Original Message—– From: Martin Butterfield
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 8:17 AM
> > >> To: Brian & Meg
> > >> Cc: birding-aus NEW
> > >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Any idea why they did that, other than “the bulldozer was just sitting
> > >> there costing ratepayers money”? Presumably the rushes will
> contribute to
> > >> preserving the climate by being set alight.
> > >>
> > >> Martin Butterfield
> > >>
> nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffranmart.blogspot.com.au%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C360acb7428fc482084f408d5fc10e75d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6366920719300405…
> > >>
> > >> On 6 August 2018 at 18:26, Brian & Meg < brianandmeg@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you
> > >>> will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > >>> began
> > >>> using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some of
> > >>> the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds. This
> > >>> afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along
> > >>> the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> > >>> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out
> but we
> > >>> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were
> struggling
> > >>> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > >>> Brian Johnson
> > >>>

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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 09:02:26 +0000
> From: martin cachard < mcachard@hotmail.com>
> To: Alan Gillanders < alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au>,
> “birding-aus@birding-aus.org” < birding-aus@birding-aus.org>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> me too Alan!!!!
>
>
> I have always loved stopping by the ponds whenever I’ve visited
> Bladensburg NP nearby – it used to be nice to see birds like Spotless and
> Baillon’s Crakes an hour before looking at Spinifexbirds,
> Chestmut-breastred Quail-thrush, Rufous-crowned Emu-wrens, and Painted
> Finch…
>
> now I fear that won’t happen!!!
>
>
> martin cachard
>
>
> trinity beach, cairns, fnq
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Birding-Aus < birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org> on behalf of Alan
> Gillanders < alan@alanswildlifetours.com.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 4:48 PM
> To: birding-aus@birding-aus.org
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
>
> Greetings,
>
> I’ve sent a questioning email also.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan
>
>
> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld,
> you will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to be
> removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but we
> did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
> >

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> From: martin cachard < mcachard@hotmail.com>
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> I will do the very same trhing Greg!!
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> martin cachard
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> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 8:03 PM
> To: birding-aus@birding-aus.org; Alan Gillanders
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> I had to go to a meeting all afternoon so couldn’t follow up with Winton
> Council. I did not get a call from Phil Krisansky, Director of Works, as
> promised. I will call him tomorrow. Others could do the same.
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> Greg Clancy
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> —–Original Message—–
> From: Alan Gillanders
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:48 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Winton, Qld
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> Greetings,
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> I’ve sent a questioning email also.
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> Regards,
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> Alan
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> On 6/08/2018 6:26 PM, Brian & Meg wrote:
> > For those who know the ?old? Winton W.T.Ponds in central-western Qld, you
> > will be disappointed to hear that today, council workmen moved in and
> > began using a bulldozer to remove the majority of the bullrushes around
> > some of the ponds. We were there yesterday and it was alive with birds.
> > This afternoon, it was a sad-looking place with the bullrushes piled up
> > along the walls and mud everywhere. Obviously, this debris will need to
> be
> > removed, probably tomorrow. Many of the birds had already moved out but
> we
> > did manage to see a few of the crakes and grassbirds that were struggling
> > to find somewhere to shelter.
> > Brian Johnson
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