Thanks Simon,
My comment was more, light hearted than frustrated. I was just interested if others had experienced this type of situation??
I had this situation earlier this year when I drove straight past the Bird Billabong near the Mary River after fruitlessly spending 2 hours searching around the flooded excavation pits for Gouldian Finch. On arriving at my next destination I discovered on Birding-Aus that some one had seen them 3 days earlier there and had delayed posting it due to their travel. Apparently they are still there
I was delighted to get the Little Grebe in Darwin a few years back. But again that info came from the lady (Dawn) at Darwin Water who told us on arrival for the key that “a rare bird of some description has been seen there over the last few days/week”. No reports had come in until later. The problem was now we were amped to find the “rare” bird but had no idea what to look for? Fortunately a local birding couple were there also and was able to let us know what it was!! We soon found it but if we had not known what to look for, we would have totally missed it among the A. Grebes.
Fun and games…
Cheers
Steve Potter Blackwood, South Australia
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From: Simon Mustoe [mailto:simonmustoe@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 26 July 2010 9:26 AM To: steve@frontier.org.au; birding-aus@vicnet.net.au Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Bird Alert – Clearly something is not working….
Steve,
I have every sympathy with you and I think I can answer that question.
Australian birders seem quite dependent on receiving information from the web. It seems to be a general consensus that currently available systems for alerting people about birds are fine as they are. If you go through the archives of birding-aus, this sentiment comes up time and time again. The problem is, all this is being provided for free, in people’s spare time, without any resourcing. We can only expect so much. The other big problem is that it all critically DEPENDS ON OTHER BIRDERS REPORTING THINGS (as you suggest).
So the question is whether any birders knew about the penguins and didn’t think to tell anyone else who might be interested. I don’t think there is any deliberate attempt to cover up these sorts of situations, moreover we just don’t think to do it. In many cases, we’re finding out about birds days after they turn up.
So for reasons you have identified here, birders might find that things can be better.
I was asked this question about Bird-O FirstAlert the other day (which I might add, we are struggling to get Australian birders to buy into – see below for what we’re about to do). I was asked, “why would people want to bother to sign up to receiving information by SMS and potentially pay for this?” The answer is this:
In the last few months, I can cite several examples for myself, where I would have saved money (and / or seen birds) had I known in time, that they were present:
1. I booked rapid return flights to Perth for work and only after that, found out about the Buff-breasted Sandpiper. The bird had been present for days but I couldn’t go to see it without changing my flights at great expense. 2. News of the White-browed Crake broke late in northern NSW and would have prohibited most birders seeing it in time, before it disappeared. 3. Let’s use your example – now you might have to spend lots more money traveling further or trying to see Fjordland Penguin on a pelagic. 4. What about if you’re out at the Western Treatment Plant and someone refinds the Hudsonian Godwit and you haven’t seen one. You have to return from Melbourne a second time to see it. In petrol and vehicle wear and tear, the cost would be over a hundred dollars. …I could go on.
So here’s an interesting question. How much money is it worth to birders, to get bird news? I can certainly say that I would have saved hundreds of dollars in the last twelve months if we had a better culture of reporting and a way of getting quicker information out FAST.
Bird-O FirstAlert (http://www.bird-o.com)
In the next week, we are looking at reviewing the FirstAlert on Bird-O and instead of having a complex regional-based system, just reporting (for the time being), big rarities / difficult birds – with the purpose of getting things out as quickly as possible. The price for this? Probably around $5 a month. However, if this is going to work, we also need people reporting things. That goes for Eremaea as well – all these sites serve a useful function and aim for the same general results, though they serve different purposes.
So my take-home message is – IF WE WANT BETTER BIRD-ALERT SERVICES, AUSTRALIAN BIRDERS NEED TO BECOME MORE PRO-ACTIVE IN REPORTING AND SHARING SIGHTINGS QUICKLY. The tools are there but not being used widely enough to solve your problem.
Regards,
Simon Mustoe.
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