The illustrated HBW/ BirdLife Illustrated Checklist is due out shortly as Dave Torr advised, with a pre-publication offer of 145 euros, but remember this is Vol 1 Non-Passerines only, Vol 2 Passerines is scheduled for 2016 so we’ll have to wait till then to find out if BirdLife accepts the split of Striated Grassrwen into 4- presumably not if they are going only by morphology, but there seems to be a giant splitfest imminent with their system, with bits and pieces dribbling out! Meantime the Internet Bird Collection gives you access to an amazing range of videos, photos and sound cuts covering something like 90% of world species, and with access to all 16 volumes of HBW that are being updated (not sure if recently published vol 17 is there yet). Costs around 30 euros per annum with sometimes a 10 euro initial joining fee which they seem to waive at times. Highly recommended. Meanwhile Peter Kovalik on Birdforum posted this invaluable comparison of the major checklists: HBW and BirdLife International Checklist Vol 1: Non-passerines: Product details of Volume 1 35 orders • 111 families • 1,009 genera • 4,372 extant species • 99 extinct species IOC 4.2: 39 orders • 108 families • 976 genera • 4,228 extant species • 97 extinct species Clements 6.8: 33 orders • 107 families • 931 genera • 4102 extant species • 57 extinct species Howard & Moore 4: 35 orders • 100 families • 983 genera • 4016 extant species • 56 (49 + 7?) extinct species TiF 2.92: 44 orders • 110 families • 1007 genera • 4324 extant and extinct species BirdLife 6.1: – orders • 98 families • 933 genera • 4023 extant species • 88 extinct species Phil Gregory Website 1: Http://www.sicklebillsafaris.com Website 2: Http://www.cassowary-house.com.au _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
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I was intrigued to see that the BirdLife 6.1 has no count for Orders, which I thought might be a mistake. So I checked the list and indeed it does not have any Orders defined – is this because they do not recognise the concept or just did not put it in the list? _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
I suppose it depends entirely on morphology too! Maybe it also depends on how current they are with the list, are they bang up to date or what. Cheers Phil Website 1: http://www.sicklebillsafaris.com Website 2: http://www.cassowary-house.com.au On 10/05/2014, at 10:19 PM, Carl Clifford wrote: _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
Hi Carl, The point is not ‘extinct’ versus ‘not extinct’ (as in the Schrödinger’s bird) it is actually ‘species’ versus ‘not species’. E.g., if you split Kokako into NI and SI Kokako then you have an extinct species more than if you lump Kokako as one species. In other words, the more you split the higher will be the number of both living and extinct species. Cheers, Nikolas On 10/05/14 10:19 PM, “Carl Clifford” <carlsclifford@gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
It is interesting to note the variation in the number of extinct species. Surely a species is extinct or not extinct. Unless, of course, there is such a thing as Schrodinger’s birds. Carl Clifford _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org