Found at WTP

Hi all,

This is for birders who have been to WTP recently.

I have found a part of a key ring. It has no value other than sentimental and no keys on it but if it were mine I would probably like to get it back. However, seeing that it is from Christmas Island I guess you could say it cost a lot to get.

Personally I am seeing the find as a good omen for my visit there later this year (smile). If you email me I will snail-mail it back to you.

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ISO setting

I agree with David’s comment about distance. If you’re zooming in on an image to see a bird that’s tiny because it was a fair way off, then you’re enlarging the grain too. Shots like that can be improved enormously by viewing them at a smaller size on the screen. The detail isn’t there to be seen, so why zoom in to reveal the defects?

When you’re close enough to get the bird full frame you can get away with a much higher ISO setting. I often use 1600 when I’m that close, if I need to because of the light, but try to keep it much lower for long distance shots, preferably ISO 100.

And what exposure mode are they using? If they’ve set it up so it’s way underexposed, it’ll be grainier when they brighten it on the computer than if it was exposed correctly.

I’d advise trying some test shots using various ISO settings, and compare the results. And don’t forget that the perfect shots you’re comparing theirs with might well be taken with a lens so big it would dwarf yours, and taken after waiting for perfect light conditions, etc.

If you have a look through some of the photos at http://www.aviceda.org/abid you’re likely to find many photos more comparable to yours, because they’re often taken in “real” conditions where the photographers took photos in the half dark, of birds that appeared unexpectedly.

Peter Shute

> —–Original Message—– > From: birding-aus-bounces@vicnet.net.au > [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@vicnet.net.au] On Behalf Of David Stowe > Sent: Friday, 30 July 2010 11:19 AM > To: Greg Little > Cc: birding-aus@vicnet.net.au > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] ISO setting > > Hi Greg, > Alistair’s response is right on the money (and more detailed > than I could go into!). > The critical question here is what camera is your friend > using? The upper limit in terms of ISO/image quality will be > decided by that factor. > Don’t worry about trying to convert ISO/ASA etc as it’s > really not relevant. Its all about finding the ISO where he > is happy with the image quality. Obviously 1200ISO is too > high as evident by the lack of image quality. > Laurie’s point about filament feather detail is much more > about subject distance rather than ISO in my opinion. eg – If > you are 30m away from a robin you won’t get fine feather > detail regardless of ISO, but get to 5m away and the detail > is able to be captured beautifully. > (From then its as much about optics and camera quality as > ISO.) Appropriate shutter speeds are another thing again and > will vary from person to person in terms of what they are > able to hand hold etc. > Cheers > David Stowe > > > On 30/07/2010, at 9:32 AM, Greg Little wrote: > > Gooday birders > > > > A friend of mine has a digital SLR camera on which he sets > the ISO at 1200 to take bird photos with a 100 – 400 zoom > lens. However the images seem a bit grainy, in old speak, or > noisy in digital speak. We have tried to get closer to the > bird subjects but the images seem to lack the sharpness and > richness of colour and detail that I have seen produced by > some of the photographers on birding-aus. So, could you > people who produce the superb digital images of birds please > offer some advise on ISO settings. If possible could you > relate the digital ISO settings to the ASA settings of film. > There may be something else he needs to know so any advise > would be appreciated. For myself I do not have a digital SLR > camera and probably won’t get one for a while yet. > > > > Greg Little > > > > Greg Little – Principal Consultant > > General Flora and Fauna > > PO Box 526 > > Wallsend, NSW, 2287, Australia > > Ph 02 49556609 > > Fx 02 49556671 > > www.gff.com.au > > > > =============================== > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > http://birding-aus.org > =============================== > > =============================== > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message: > unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) > to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au > > http://birding-aus.org > =============================== > ============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au

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Pintail and SMS

I’ve seen that format on some Birdlines.

But I’m not aware of Birdlines being collated from, for example, birding-aus postings. In that case, fully acknowledging the source is more complicated. Perhaps a link to the original posting in the archives should be added.

Peter Shute

Current conditions at Bowra station, SWQld

Hi Everyone,

This is s rundown on current Bowra conditions. Before we left home, others were very generous with help for us. and so I am passing on the service to those whose arrival in SWQld may be imminent.

Be aware that rain is moving in from the west, and that several roads have already been closed. Ian McLaren told Bowra campers that if they were not planning to leave today, they may well be there for 3 days and unable to get out. The floods earlier this year and the rain about a month ago have left the southwest still damp. It won’t take much rain to turn the gravel roads impassable. We had planned to head west from Bowra this morning, but after talking to the Cunnamulla information office, we headed north to lesser or negligible rain. It was likely we wouldn’t have been allowed further than Thargomindah. As I write at 4pm from Charleville, the rain is beginning. The locals are taking it seriously, and don’t enjoy digging hairy-chested travellers out of the bog.

Birding at Bowra is very good at present. It falls well short of the best birding we have had at Bowra, but that’s because the regional conditions are so good that the birds are well spread out. I have never seen Bowra looking so good in the many years we have been visiting. The grass is so long – though now dried and yellow – that you can’t see the ground birds walking around.

At the same time, I haven’t seen Bowra’s roads in such poor condition before, and this is a legacy of the earlier floods. Patches of bog remain to catch the unwary. We got through everywhere we wanted to go in 2WD, but a low sedan would be unhappy bumping along the potholes and creek scours. Mind you, a sedan can still negotiate quite a few kms of good birding country. You just need to know when to turn around in a sedan.

Julie and Ian McLaren are still running Bowra, but their withdrawal is only days away. We stayed with them in town for a couple of nights, and we saw that they are really tired. The last drought took a lot out of them, followed by floods, and they truly need and relish the prospect of life as private citizens. I understand Birds Queensland will fulfill the birding and accommodation role from next week.

Last night around the campfire at happy hour I noticed people sounding anxious about some of the gossip they had heard about BQ’s plans to change things, believing it may spoil their pleasure next time. Ian and Julie ran a very laid-back show, but with the change of ownership may come some legal constraints necessitating rules and regulations. It is very easy to lose goodwill, and we just have to hope that BQ is aware of the need to maintain that goodwill.

For myself, I was filled with pure joy at being there. I thrilled at my reunion with my favourite Black-breasted Buzzard; it had been so long since I had seen a Pallid Cuckoo, and had two apparently planning to lay in a Red-capped Robin’s nest, with the male robin outraged and insistent that it wouldn’t happen. James delighted in his beloved Major Mitchells. I think he may be related to them. We were driving along yesterday, birding with our eyes everywhere outside the vehicle, when James suddenly shrieked and braked, then bailed out of the vehicle. I was thinking snake, but hey, it’s winter. It was a massive spider, crawling along the steering column towards James. I had to get the spider out before James would get back in. I guess that’s one of the reasons why a guy gets married. Forty years later I am still doing my duty.

So if you’re on the way to Bowra, be careful on the roads, and enjoy the birding.

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Wingspan 1993 article

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Wingspan 1993 article

Hi All, Does anyone have a copy of the 1993 Wingspan Volume 11? There is an article by D. Andrew and D. Rogers that apparently makes reference to Hall’s babblers that I would like to obtain. As usual our library at UNSW doesn’t hold the material. If anyone has a copy and could be so kind as to provide me with a scan or photocopy, that would be great! Cheers,Dean _________________________________________________________________ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/============================== To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send the message: unsubscribe (in the body of the message, with no Subject line) to: birding-aus-request@vicnet.net.au

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Thanks for the very generous and enlightening discussions

Can I just say a big thanks to Steve Potter for starting this thread and to Russell and his cohorts for allowing it to flourish. It’s amazing the diversity of views and opinions, which is the wonderful thing about human beings eh!

And while we are on about a rich tapestry, we have an amazing breadth of birding services online, which are all used and the network is just growing all the time. Brilliant! So adding a bit more value, with a service that’s different to anything else – is that such a crime? I don’t think so.

There’s no reason why information gathered by any of the portals can’t all end elsewhere – Birdline, Eremaea or anywhere else. I am sure it will, and we would like it to. For all of us, there’s so much to be gained from innovative ideas and harnessing passion and enthusiasm.

Can I also thank the many people who, over the last few weeks (and in the last 24 hours) have emailed us to support rolling forward. You know I love birding-aus but ‘fraid to say, the views of the few on this forum, are outweighed by the views of the many outside it.

We are feeling a lot more confident about pressing on, thanks to your support and have made the necessary changes to the site, to respond to suggestions.

Kind regards,

Simon Mustoe.

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Mallee Emu-wren in trouble again. Nowingi

Hi all

Just found some disturbing news on the internet talking about destroying critical Mallee Emu-wren habitat for solar development.

As most of you know this species is already in a huge amount of trouble due to fire and habitat loss.

This development now looks to be planned in one of this species strongholds.

A link to the news story is below.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/26/2963815.htm?site=news

I hope this doesnt get up and running.

Sorry Adrian

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rare bird alerts

I object to the ‘privatisation’ of rare bird information. It also sounds like the situation (in the UK) in the 80s when you had to phone a number and wait through an interminable recorded message to find where the rarities were. It’s a step backwards.

If information about rarities is sent to Birding-aus then people can read these very quickly by looking at the subject lines. Rarities not in their area can be ignored. It is up to people how often a day they check birding-aus, but each check requires far less time than a call to a phone number.

Please could people continue to post news of rarities to Birding-aus (consistent with the well-being of the bird and respect for private property).

— John Leonard Canberra Australia www.jleonard.net

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Birding-Aus RARITIES PHONE NUMBER

Hi Russell,

The Birdpedia SMS Sighting Notification service is just that. The subscription is NOT time based. It is SMS unit based. Just buy 100 SMS units (currently AU$24 per 100 units) and you will receive reports as long as you have units available. You can turn the service ON and OFF at will. Your credits do NOT expire. Restrict your receipt of messages to rarities only if you wish. As always the notification via email is free and immediate – there is not mediator involved. You can send to multiple addresses at the same time. You can contact the poster directly – you do not need to request permission of contact information from Birdpedia. Being able to contact the SMS sender however depends on them adding their mobile number to their account (and not everybody does).

But in my opinion SMS notification will never really catch on. The short length of the message limits the amount of data that can be sent. With new phones you can receive emails directly on your phone – much more useful as there are very few restrictions.

But, as you said the problem is that there are many reporting services and not everybody reports. I doubt we can ever get around that.

Regards,

Martyn Price

Birdpedia.com

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