G’day all Are these terms interchangeable? For example: The HANZAB entry for Little Shrikethrush movements states “Almost certainly sedentary, but widely described as resident in literature” The glossary in the latest Pizzey states: Sedentary: staying in the same locality throughout the year Resident: remaining in one place all year; non-migratory In volume 1a of HANZAB they state: Resident: most individuals non-migratory though some may move long distances Sedentary: most individuals not normally moving more than 50 km. Would someone please explain the distinction with examples? Cheers Steve Clark Hamilton, Vic _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
Steve, I usually use the Fat Birder as my first reference when considering a trip to somewhere I know nothing about. Have a look at http://www.fatbirder.com/links_geo/middle_east/qatar.html I have heard that the birding can be very good in the Middle East, with a mix of Asian and African birds. Regards, Bruce —–Original Message—– Sent: Monday, 2 June 2014 1:20 PM G’day all and thanks for your thoughts. I reckon it is generally safe to use the terms interchangeably (if not strictly correct). The people who made the distinction between the species and individuals are probably on the money. It is also a question of scale (Victoria versus my back yard for instance). Golden Whistlers are residents in Victoria but not in my yard. Grey Fantails are residents in Victoria and my yard but not sedentary. New Holland Honeyeaters are resident and sedentary in my yard. Cheers Steve Clark Hamilton, Vic _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
G’day all and thanks for your thoughts. I reckon it is generally safe to use the terms interchangeably (if not strictly correct). The people who made the distinction between the species and individuals are probably on the money. It is also a question of scale (Victoria versus my back yard for instance). Golden Whistlers are residents in Victoria but not in my yard. Grey Fantails are residents in Victoria and my yard but not sedentary. New Holland Honeyeaters are resident and sedentary in my yard. Cheers Steve Clark Hamilton, Vic _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
G’day all and thanks for your thoughts. I reckon it is generally s _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 10:58:38 +1000, Steve Clark < bukoba.steve@gmail.com> wrote: HANZAB has it almost right. Sedentary means that virtually all individuals stay in their local area their whole lives. Non-migratory is a synonym. Resident means that the species is present year-round in a given area, but that the species may be migratory or partially migratory. Thus the birds present in an area in one season are not necessarily the same individuals in that area in another season. Resident species may be sedentary, but sedentary species must be resident. The terms “Summer Resident” and “Winter Resident” are oxymorons. A species can no more be a Summer Resident, than it can be a “Spring Resident” during a period of migration. — Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA “It turns out we’re very good at not seeing things” – Jack Hitt _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
Hi to you all, Do they have special meaning when referring to birds? If it was people, I would say that they were different and would agree with the quote Steve gives from Hanzab. Sonja On 01/06/2014, at 7:13 PM, martin cachard < mcachard@hotmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org
hey Steve, that’s a good question… i’d have thought personally that they would be interchangeable… but maybe sedentary defines that they don’t move far beyond their territory boundaries when adult, but residents do wander out of them to feed but always return to their breeding grounds within shorter time-frames than say a migrant would (say Procellariiformes as an eg of resident)… but u know what, I don’t think so… I think that they probably are one in the same thing when referring to birds, but it will be interesting to see what others think… I’ve often pondered the same question especially when much younger but now I just use them to mean the same thing… cheers, martin cachard, cairns 0428 782 808 _______________________________________________ Birding-Aus mailing list Birding-Aus@birding-aus.org To change settings or unsubscribe visit: http://birding-aus.org/mailman/listinfo/birding-aus_birding-aus.org