Hope you’re not classifying what we’re on about as an “animal charity” along with the lost cats home. I think conservation goes to the heart of what is crucial to human society. (unless you’re part of the developing sub-species happy to be ensconced in concrete, sitting behind a screen all day and eating engineered tofu). 
________________________________________ From: Birding-Aus < birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org> on behalf of Susan Knowles < sknowles46@aapt.net.au> Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2015 2:42 PM To: Tony Russell Cc: birding-aus@birding-aus.org; Fred Mack Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Is anyone else sick of BirdLife Australia marketing? William Macaskill in “Doing good better” attempts to provide information to let you choose the most effective charities. It’s worth a read and I think refers to a web site which I think helps with this http://www.effectivealtruism.org. I don’t think he rates animal charities as saving human lives is his basis for judgement. > On 8 Dec 2015, at 2:38 PM, Tony Russell < pratincole08@gmail.com> wrote: > > And how do you identify those charities wherein even some of the donated funds go to those in need and not mostly to the charity staff and management ? I’ve stopped all my donations to charities and do gooder funds because of this unknown, and because of the way they pester you interminably once they get your address or phone number. > I did contribute modestly on line ( and therefore more unidentifiably) to the recent bushfire relief funds, mainly because it was all so horrifying and I wanted to help those who had suffered, but I could only assume, hopefully correctly, that the banks did see to it that the money went where it was needed in this case. I could be wrong though. If it had been possible I would have preferred to hand the money directly to the distraught families, but that wasn’t possible because the public were not allowed into the fireground in case we were looters or rubbernecks. > > Tony. > > —–Original Message—– > From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of Carl Clifford > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:36 PM > To: Fred Mack > Cc: birding-aus@birding-aus.org > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Is anyone else sick of BirdLife Australia marketing? > > It looks like BLA has hired marketeers from the pester school of marketing, whose technique seems to be based on the tenet that if they keep on dunning you, you will donate, in the hope that they will go away. Unfortunately, they don’t, they just see a sucker and come in for more. I have just changed ISP’s and they are the same, ringing me 3-4 times a week, usually at meal times, trying to sell me their mobile phone packages. > > What worries me about this style of marketing by charities,such as BLA, is the percentage of donations that are absorbed by marketing, in the form of salaries, printing and postage etc. It has got to the point with mainstream charities such as the Salvos, St Vinnies, that I no longer donate, because I know that the majority of my donations will not go to whom I am hoping to help. I only now donate to causes where I know my mony is really going to make a difference. > > Cheers, > > Carl Clifford > >> On 7 Dec 2015, at 10:09 PM, Fred Mack < freddymack66@outlook.com> wrote: >> >> https://support.birdlife.org.au/emailviewonwebpage.aspx?erid=2407986&trid=43b5737e-fb8a-4471-b824-64047318c034 >> >> “With numbers down 84%… how long before the Lesser Sand Plover is extinct? >> “This Silent Shorebirds Crisis can’t continue.” >> >> Silent crisis? seriously, it’s been at the forefront of ornithology for 10 years hasn’t it… are BirdLife Australia just realizing this?.. and is this actually true? Given these people have recently said in similar marketing 90% of Australia’s woodlands have been cleared in the past few decades, we need to protect private land for Mallee- Emu-wrens (they never occured on private land as far as I know) and Magpies are going extinct, you have to wonder? >> >> I’ve supported this organization in the past to the tune of tens of thousands and all I get is constant negative doomsday marketing trying to guilt me into things. They must send me a dozen a year. Add to that a massive and insultingly invasive, “supporter survey” asking me everything from my income to where live! >> >> These people do wonderful actual conservation and research work – I know I help with much of it and they are great! but for god’s sake who is running this organization these days? >> >> Is anyone else totally sick of them or is it just me? >> >> Frank. >> >> >>
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