Good point. I assume retesting has been suggested, but is too hot an issue for any politician to consider.
> —–Original Message—– > From: Bill Stent [mailto:billstent@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 8:27 AM > To: Alistair McKeough > Cc: Peter Shute; Birding Australia > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting season- There’s an > identification test? > > My daughter is 12. She can’t remember where she left her shoes last > night, much less the underwing pattern of a flying duck she saw two > years ago! > > > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Alistair McKeough > wrote: > > I think you can’t shoot until 12, but you can get the ID > test nailed a > > couple of years earlier. > > > > On 7 February 2012 08:13, Bill Stent wrote: > >> > >> I understand that psychological studies show that males > are incapable > >> of rational judgement until they’re about 23, females > younger. This is > >> one reason why young males kill themselves in cars so often. > >> > >> But a ten year old with a shotgun sounds like a script for a horror > >> movie. This is less than half the age of reliable rationality. > >> > >> Are these people serious? > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Peter Shute > wrote: > >> > Yes, the younger the better as always. The page you > referred to earlier > >> > says 12 is the minimum, so perhaps there’s some > confusion between states, or > >> > perhaps it’s changed recently. > >> > > >> > Peter Shute > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: Alistair McKeough [mailto:alistair.mckeough@gmail.com] > >> > Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 7:29 AM > >> > To: Peter Shute > >> > Cc: Dave Torr; Dimitris Bertzeletos; Birding Australia > >> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting season- There’s an > >> > identification test? > >> > > >> > Field & Game is encouraging those over 10 to gear up now > by passing the > >> > test: > >> > > >> > ” If you are over the age of 10 years and you have an interest in > >> > [killing] waterfowl, you may obtain your waterfowl identification > >> > certificate right now. Once you have the certificate, > keep it safe and > >> > record your registration number where it can be found > quite easily. In > >> > recent years changes to the way WIT’s are recorded have > created some > >> > problems for hunters seeking a current duck hunting > license in some areas.” > >> > > >> > Nothing like encouraging people to gear up as early as > 10 for when they > >> > can start shooting live animals for sport. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 7 February 2012 07:24, Peter Shute > >> > > wrote: > >> > When the test first came in, people I know who had been > duck shooting > >> > for years had to buy the training video in order to be > good enough to pass > >> > the test. I would imagine therefore that they’re a lot > better at id in > >> > flight than they were before, which is a good thing. > >> > > >> > The video is called “Ducks in Sight”. I’ve got a vague > memory of seeing > >> > it for sale at the BOCA shop, so I get the impression > it’s useful for > >> > learning id. > >> > > >> > I don’t think they’re required to ever sit the test > again, so just like > >> > a drivers’ licence, there’s nothing stopping people > who’ve forgotten > >> > everything they learned from shooting/driving > regardless. But the tests do > >> > stop those who can’t be bothered learning id from ever > getting a licence, so > >> > I imagine there are far less illegal species shot by > mistake than there were > >> > before. > >> > > >> > How many are shot anyway, I don’t know. Those collected > by volunteers > >> > are probably a small percentage of the total, given how > many shooters use > >> > private wetlands. I’m guessing enforcement is the > problem now, not id > >> > skills. > >> > > >> > Peter Shute > >> > > >> >> —–Original Message—– > >> >> From: > >> >> > birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au nces@lists.vicnet.net.au> > >> >> > >> >> > [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au -aus-bounces@lists.vicnet.net.au>] > >> >> On Behalf Of > >> >> Dave Torr > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012 6:34 AM > >> >> To: Dimitris Bertzeletos > >> >> Cc: Birding Australia > >> >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Duck shooting season- There’s an > >> >> identification test? > >> >> > >> >> Anyone who wants to drive a car has to pass a test, but the > >> >> evidence is > >> >> that it doesn’t help some people drive safely. I assume the > >> >> duck shooting > >> >> test is likely to be even less of a success! > >> >> > >> >> On 7 February 2012 02:35, Dimitris Bertzeletos > >> >> > > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Hello all, > >> >> > > >> >> > I’ve just learned that there’s an identification test that > >> >> waterfowlers > >> >> > need to pass before they can shoot in the field. Anyone > >> >> have any idea how > >> >> > stringent this is? 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