marketing and BirdLife

I too am disappointed at this battering of whinges. I would like to add to and broadly support some of what Ken wrote, without reposting many of the other messages. Of course BLA seek donations to achieve their aims. Along with a vast number of other presumably worthwhile organisations. So what is wrong with that? It would be pathetic if they did not try. Sure they could space it out more in time but they don’t know when our individual situation changes, so that we have a bit more available. How else are they supposed to raise their profile and achieve things? Surely we should support them when we can and if we can’t for a time, then encourage them by being polite in the hope that fund raising will be successful or that we will soon have some of our own money to donate a bit more. That is my suggestion. Or put BLA in your will….. I constantly get letters and email requests even from organisations with whom I have no connection whatever. So what? That is life today. Try travelling to places where poor people beg in the street as a means to survive or hassle you to buy trinkets. Every year I participate in doing collections around my neighbourhood for heart foundation, red cross etc. Some people always donate and some never do… So what? That is their choice. As someone doing that simple task as a volunteer, I am far more happy with someone who says sorry I can’t give anything now than someone who whinges at the approach. Don’t think people are averse to giving…… Last weekend as part of the local Men’s Shed (of which I am a member) I manned the gate with others, for a “Terribly British Car display day” in Canberra. I am not remotely interested in old British cars. They invited us to collect donations in thanks for doing this traffic control task. People entering almost threw money at us, just for doing this trivial task, even though we said there is no entry fee. Almost no one declined to donate and we made a lot. On other days I have worked at sausage sizzles at Bunnings to raise charity funds. The money pours in and it is not because the food is great or the customers are underfed. Maybe BLA could try that. As for “Birdlife [and its predecessors] have remained invisible …..” what nonsense! Especially in this day of easy communication. I found and joined BOCA in 1970 when I was aged 13 and RAOU in 1975 and have always been able to find them since then. Having more funds available to increase their profile can only help. Of course I am concerned that funds obtained are appropriately used and that they are properly managed and reported on. And yes this involves administrative costs and there is nothing wrong with that. Provided the balance is right. And of course to encourage membership can be better than collecting some donations but membership is also a source of funds. I have been a member of these and other bird clubs continuously since 1970….. Philip Veerman Canberra ACT —–Original Message—– From: Birding-Aus [mailto:birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org] On Behalf Of Ken Cross Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2015 8:12 AM To: ‘Shirley Cook’; ‘Messages Birding-aus’ Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] marketing and BirdLife My ramble; This thread has gone on for long and I am wondering what will be achieved. The world we live in is very far from perfect and many worthwhile organisations need members and money and support. Criticism of Birdlife for sending out appeals seems a little silly; particularly if your main criticism is ‘I find it annoying’. I understand it in the context of every other email, phone call, letter we get from everyone but understand EVERYONE is struggling with this. Pick your fav’s, support them, harden your heart and tear up the rest. Having said that, we are the birds’ main hope. Birdlife should be our charity of choice. Now Mr Leonard probably has some reasonable points although I would phrase it less harshly than him. There is room for improvement for Birdlife. It has disappointed me that Birdlife [and its predecessors] have remained invisible from the general public and I suspect politicians for so long. I too, echo, Shirley’s Cook’s frustration that when we are visual we turn into beggars with the constant pushing for donations. When our group has done interpretive stands for Birdlife we have been told to ‘push for donations’ before, it seems, whether we know they [the public] has an interest in birds or not. I feel more confident about encouraging membership than point blank asking for cash.. Perhaps we should start suggesting ways to improve Birdlife and the ways in which they can attract more capital. Cheers Ken