All The Birds of the World: Review

If Birdlife Australia makes no independent taxonomic judgments and BLI does no deal with subspecies how come BLA lists them?

On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 12:21, Geoffrey Dabb <gdabb@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Yes. We are talking about the strange and shifting world of global lists. Noel mentioned different global lists, and Phil commented . . . → Read More: All The Birds of the World: Review

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I was indeed referring to BirdLife International (BLI), and their is used by various legal and conservation bodies so it is still quite significant, though now somewhat in need of an update. Unfortunately their taxonomy will be shoe-horned into the Clements version by Cornell / E-bird, a great pity but there we are, presumably HBWAlive . . . → Read More: All The Birds of the World: Review

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Yes. We are talking about the strange and shifting world of global lists. Noel mentioned different global lists, and Phil commented on different taxonomic approaches, including ‘Birdlife’. This must mean Birdlife International (BLI), as Birdlife Australia makes no independent taxonomic judgments. Until version 9.1 in 2017 BLI offered a checklist (no subspecies), stating . . . → Read More: All The Birds of the World: Review

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But BirdLife Australia does do subspecies!

On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 08:41, Geoffrey Dabb <gdabb@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Birdlife by itself did not do subspecies. Cornell Lab has now swallowed HBW but the digestion process has its difficulties. Look at the jumbled entry for ‘Grey Whistler P. simplex’. Has it been counted as . . . → Read More: All The Birds of the World: Review

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Birdlife by itself did not do subspecies. Cornell Lab has now swallowed HBW but the digestion process has its difficulties. Look at the jumbled entry for ‘Grey Whistler P. simplex’. Has it been counted as an Australian endemic species? Consider also the shrike-tits.

 

From: Phil Gregory <oreornis@gmail.com&gt; Sent: Monday, 9 . . . → Read More: All The Birds of the World: Review

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Birdlife hands down, then IOC…… Phil Gregory oreornis@gmail.com ornithological writer/tour leader/tour facilitator Field Guides / Sicklebill Safaris / Cassowary ToursPO Box 597MalandaQLD 4885AustraliaPh: +61 7 4096 8063 Email: info@s2travel.com.auWebsite1: http://www.sicklebillsafaris.com OR www.birder.travel Website 2: http://www.cassowarytours.com.au

On 9 Nov 2020, at 9:42 AM, Geoffrey Dabb <gdabb@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Shades of that old cold war question: ‘Who has the . . . → Read More: All The Birds of the World: Review

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Shades of that old cold war question: ‘Who has the best Germans?’ Who has the most creative taxonomists?

 

From: Birding-Aus <birding-aus-bounces@birding-aus.org&gt; On Behalf Of Phil GregorySent: Monday, 9 November 2020 10:12 AMTo: Noel Luff <noelluff@gmail.com&gt;Cc: Birding Aus <birding-aus@birding-aus.org&gt;Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] All The Birds of the World: Review

 

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Hmm, I don’t agree with those endemic totals no matter which checklist you follow, Papua New Guinea actually has something like 415 and the whole New Guinea region 481, and that’s not with the BirdLife taxonomy which would be higher, I’d place Australia third after Indonesia then PNG. Phil Gregory oreornis@gmail.com ornithological writer/tour leader/tour facilitator . . . → Read More: All The Birds of the World: Review

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Further to Jason's comments I would like to add to his comments. There were a couple of other features which he did not cover. I do not own any of the previous publications from Lynx which preceded this one (17 volume Handbook or 2 volume Checklist). I do, however, subscribe to Cornell's Birds of the . . . → Read More: All The Birds of the World: Review

soaring Goshawk

Hi all,

The Noisy Miners at my place (Como, on the Woronora River, South of Sydney) just drew my attention to  a Brown Goshawk, probably female based on size, circling above.

I realised it was carrying what I assume to be prey: looked like a small bird, but hard to get . . . → Read More: soaring Goshawk