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  • Albatross Reference Works

    Dear Friends,

    Can anyone with access to any of the following titles check out some facts for me.

    Tickell, W. L. N. (2000) Albatosses

    What explanation (if any) does Tickell give for the split of Chatham Albatross Thalassarche eremita from Shy Albatross T. cauta; and of both from Salvin’s Albatross T. salvini?

    Re Brooke (2004) Albatrosses andf Petrels across the world

    Split of Amsterdam Albatross Diomedea amsterdamensis from Wandering Albatross D. exulans; Antipodean albatross D. antipodensis from D. exulans; Northern Royal Albatross D.sanfordi from Southern Royal Albatross D.epomophora; Campbell Island Albatross D.impavida from Black-browed Albatross T.melanophris; Chatham Albatross T. eremita from Shy Albatross T. cauta; Salvin’s Albatross T. salvini from T. cauta; and Indian Yellow-nosed Albatross T. carteri from Atlantic Yellow-nosed Albatross T. chlororhynchos.

    I was able to find some pages from Google Books of Brooke (2004) and was able to look at his account of D. antipodensis. In that account, he only discusses why he treats D. gibsoni as a subspecies of D. antipodensis; he does not discuss here at all why he recognises D. antipodensis as a species distinct from D. exulans. Maybe he has in some other part of the book?

    I’d also appreciate if anyone has a copy of Onley & Scofield (2008) offers any explanation for the same splits? Or do they just take them for granted?

    Many thanks,

    Dr John Penhallurick

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    Fraser A.C.T. 2615

    Australia

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  • Elegant Parrot in the Pilbara

    This discussion is indeed timely. Just yesterday I flushed what I took to be an Elegant Parrot about 40kms west of Wiluna on the Meekatharra road, in mulga scrub. I was starting to worry that I might have missed a female Scarlet-chested! Martin Cake ==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com

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  • Ornithologists collecting ecological data

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100616102900.htm

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  • Hormonal balances appear to affect the lifespans of songbirds

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  • The netiquette of pointing to websites

    A recent post to Birding-Aus (http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/birding-aus/2010-06/msg00244.html , last viewed 19 June 2010) has raised the issue of a website referring to a report of an uncommon sighting of a wader in SEQ. The internet is an evolving social domain, and its mores are still developing.

    In academic circles, when referring to a [non-password protected] online item, it is normal to cite the URL and the date the item was last viewed. When referring to the contents of the item, it is important to use quote marks when presenting verbatim material, or to ensure that an accurate representation is made if summarising it.

    I would suggest that a reasonable way for a website to refer to a posting on Birding Aus might be to include the URL from the Birding Aus archives (http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/birding-aus/) and the date viewed (in case things get moved around). In the case of a rare sighting, I would say that it is fair to say “There is a report of a (possible if identity is uncertain) seen at on at (last viewed “. If the original report contains a weblink pointing to photos etc, then it would be fair to say “Further details are available at (last viewed .”

    So to use a recent example of my own, “On June 4, 2010 (http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/birding-aus/2010-06/msg00042.html , last viewed 19 June, 2010), Laurie Knight reported the absence of Spotted Whistling Ducks at the Weipa sewage ponds and attributed this to changed environmental conditions.”

    Regards, Laurie.

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  • Bowra through to Corner Country

    Hi all, I an heading off in about 2 weeks to visit Bowra and try for Grey grasswren at Cooper Crossing or perhaps at Noccundra before heading down to Sturt NP and down through Mutawintji before coming back home. Appreciate any tip from anyone who has been out that way recently. I’ve checked road conditions and all roads through that corner of Qld are listed as open through to Innamincka, but the road from Innamincka to Cameron Corner is shown as closed. I was considering going to try for Eyrean grasswren (2 dunes back from the yellow bus) on the road from Cameron Corner to Merty merty, but that road currently appears to be closed. Appreciate any tips or sightings people have had out that way.

    regards,

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  • Wild v Captive-bred Princess and Scarlet-chested Parrots

    It seems that what most of the accounts on this topic are not taking into account is there are a lot more people in aviculture that are interested in mutations rather than “wild type” birds. The market for “wild type” birds would be very small indeed. And considering the cost and trouble in getting these two species from the wild – no way would anyone bother. And truly wild caught adult parrots are basically useless as they rarely settle enough not to kill themselves against the wire, let alone that the chances of breeding from them are almost non-existent. The poachers would have to find nests and take eggs/nestlings and hand raise them… Just my thoughts, Susie Wisniewski _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/==============================www.birding-aus.org birding-aus.blogspot.com

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  • A personal statement concerning the use of my name

    Yesterday, 18 June 2010, I announced on BirdingAus a link to some photos I had taken of the Hooded Plover recently found at Noosa Heads, SE Qld. I have made the images available for public viewing for the enjoyment of birdwatchers in general and to provide an aid for those who plan to look for the bird themselves. I am sure many birdwatchers have seen this species elsewhere but I am also sure that many ‘local’ birdwatchers may not have had that pleasure yet. My other hope is that, by encouraging more birdwatchers to experience the birdwatching opportunities in the Noosa area specifically and the Sunshine Coast of SE Qld in general, more pressure may be placed on local authorities to recognise the value there is in preserving the natural resources of the area. As it is, a great deal of pressure is being placed on the area of the sighting of the Hooded Plover by human activity and this has the potential to cause a high degree of disruption to the well-being of the birds which use the sand areas of the Noosa River estuary. To the credit of the Sunshine Coast Regional Council they are taking steps to lessen that danger.

    I receive no commercial (read monetary) gain from showing the Hooded Plover photos and the web pages which contain those images have no links of any commercial nature whatsoever. My photos are not for sale but I do, at times, allow the use of my photos for non-commercial and or community use. I do, of course, reserve the right to decide who I allow to use those images and where they may be used.

    For a short time after the announcement of the link to the Hooded Plover photos a statement appeared on the Bird-O website stating that I had photographed the hooded Plover at Noosa on 17 June 2010. The statement was included as part of a so-called Trip Report and as part of what seemed to be a time-line. I did not ask anyone involved with the Bird-O website to include that information and I did not ask anyone at Bird-O to use my name in connection with their reporting of the presence of a Hooded Plover at Noosa Heads. I felt that using the statement containing my name but without any link to my photos was gratuitous in nature in that it did not provide any worthwhile information but was simply used as padding to make the ‘Trip Report’ appear more comprehensive and authoritative. In my opinion the use of my name in this manner could present me in a ‘self-seeking’ light in some people’s view so I have requested that the reference to myself be removed from the Bird-O website. That request has been complied with.

    In responding to my request a moderator of the Bird-O website explained to me that they consider what appears on websites such as BirdingAus to be in the “public domain” and therefore they are entitled to make use of such information on their own website. Apparently they feel they do not need to pay the original author the courtesy of consultion before using the information originally provided by the original author in the original posting. If it is the case that what appears on BirdingAus, for example, is in the ‘public domain’ and is therefore considered to be available for use by any other party without request from or consultation with the original author then I am quite disturbed by that and I would therefore be very reluctant to post anything on any on-line forum in the future.

    By way of a comparison and an example of how I think things should be done, I was approached by a moderator of Birdline Australia for permission to use a link to my Hooded Plover photos in connection with their entry for the Noosa Hooded Plover sighting. I appreciated the respect and courtesy contained in the request and, determining in my own mind the relevance and value to birdwatchers considering looking for the bird, I readily agreed to supply a suitable link.

    I have no desire to totally prevent websites such as Bird-O from having access to and using information made available on BirdingAus, for example. However, in my case, when I post to BirdingAus I tailor that information for the list-members in a manner which I believe will suit the context of the list itself. If someone connected with websites such as Bird-O (for example) thinks that the information I have provided on another website is suitable for their own purposes I would like to be consulted first so that I can be satisfied that what is being used is relevant, accurate and of value to the potential readers. I have no desire to see my words or pictures or descriptions of my activities used simply in an attempt to ‘enhance’ the perceived value of a website I would not normally patronise.

    I recognise that other people may have different opinions on this matter and that is their right. I simply ask that those people recognise that I have a right to my opinions also and that they respect that. If I am shown due respect and courtesy I am much more likely to respond positively to requests made of me.

    Cheers

    Bob Inglis Sandstone Point Qld Australia

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  • Non-breeding Shorebird Mapping Project is online

    Dear All,

    I am pleased to announce the availability of the second module of the Shorebird Mapping Project of WorldWaders. The first one, for nesting shorebird mapping, has been introduced a month ago and had a nice start. Now the Beta version of the Non-breeding Shorebird Mapping Project is online. We encourage everyone to have a try and use it on a regular basis. Lets us see where our loved group of birds move in large numbers to identify unidentified key sites for their better protection.

    Please login with your WorldWaders account and try it now: http://www.worldwaders.org/index.php?modul=ujmadar2 If you don’t have an account it is better to make one now. WorldWaders has a very simple registration process. Just visit this link: http://www.worldwaders.org/index.php?modul=regisztracio

    We don’t say this module is 100% perfect but we are on it to be. Should you find an error or bug, please let us know. Looking forward to hear your comments and feedback. 🙂

    Kind regards, Gyorgy Szimuly (Szimi)/WorldWaders __________ Website: http://www.worldwaders.org Hungary Project enquiry: projects@worldwaders.org Skype: worldwaders.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118733871495865

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  • Hooded Plover, Noosa

    Hi all,

    Andrew Stafford and I visited Noosa today on the rising tide and successfully located the Hooded Plover with a scope within about 10 minutes from Wood Park (off the end of Hastings St). The google map on the Bird-O site has a pin basically where we were standing when we found the bird, so use that to get directions if you don’t know the area.

    The bird was on the main sandbar and wasn’t always visible, but moved around a lot. I’ve added my sighting plus a couple of others to the page, so check out my notes and a list of other species found on the day here: http://birdo.wildiaries.com/trips/10233/trip_days/10709/display

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