There are “good” and “bad” people in most groups. The 4WD club I most recently was a member of, has included activities such as removal of burned out and damaged wrecks of cars from bushland, as a community service and contributions towards maintaining historic bush huts. I have been a member, mainly to learn about how to handle the car in bush settings. Sometimes some members do need just a bit of further encouragement. On one of the trips I went on, I chastised another member for leaving his cigarette buts in the bush. I pointed out that he had a ashtray worth about $50000 attached to the rest of his car and that he should use that, instead of the bush (of course I think smokers should eat their cigarette buts).
Philip
